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    Weird

    What's the point of Pierce in BK? Unless they're planning to play small-ball with Wallace at the 4, It makes no sense to me.

    I wonder if they're offering the same package they did for Smith (Hump + Marshon + 1st round pick).

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    Josh Smith will windup in Milwaukee if I was a betting man. I'm actually pretty disappointed the Spurs aren't even interested in him. I don't have nearly the confidence in Splitter/Diaw come playoff time that most of the fans on these boards do.
    [2] Diaw doesn't rebound or box out(i hope he is just coasting...) and Splitter isn't a good rebounder this season.

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    Scratch

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Latest Y! Sports NBA Trade Deadline Buzz: Boston, Brooklyn discuss Paul Pierce. http://tinyurl.com/aqr2xrv
    "The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
    The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said." - Adrian Wojnarowski

    Weird

    What's the point of Pierce in BK? Unless they're planning to play small-ball with Wallace at the 4, It makes no sense to me.

    I wonder if they're offering the same package they did for Smith (Hump + Marshon + 1st round pick).

    Is it just me, or does Brooklyn seem like they have no idea what the they're doing? Other than trying to ac ulate the highest payroll in NBA history.

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    "The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
    The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said." - Adrian Wojnarowski

    Is it just me, or does Brooklyn seem like they have no idea what they're doing? Other than trying to ac ulate the highest payroll in NBA history.

    That package is laughable. Paul Pierce is still a stellar player that is incredibly popular in Boston. Humphries and Brooks are afterthoughts that the Nets have been trying to get rid of since the beginning of this year. So essential it's Pierce for a lame draft pick. Heck, that's as bad as the Bonner, Blair, and a first rounder for Pierce.

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    "Who is this Pierce? Bring him to me at once!" - Mikhai Pokorov

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    If Boston wants to rebuild, a trade like Garnett+Pierce to Clippers for Bledsoe+Jordan+Odom+Butler+picks sounds good. KG being traded alongside Pierce to LA might convince him of waiving his no trade clause.

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    If Boston wants to rebuild, a trade like Garnett+Pierce to Clippers for Bledsoe+Jordan+Odom+Butler+picks sounds good. KG being traded alongside Pierce to LA might convince him of waiving his no trade clause.
    Agreed but everything I've read is saying that the Clippers don't want to give up both Bledsoe and Jordan, just Bledsoe. But it wouldn't matter anyways unless KG agrees to waive his no-trade clause which he's said he won't. My guess is neither team makes any deals by the deadline.

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    Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but watching the box scores might put a spotlight on who is traded if they don't play tonight.

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    I think as Spurs fans we should hope Garnett doesn't end up in Clipperland as that would improve them a lot. On the other hand, Bledsoe would be gone and he's a scary bench player who can turn a game in 5 mins. Still, Clips with KG become super-scary.

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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine Just under 20 hours left before trade deadline for stances to change, but mostly standing-pat rumbles coming from both Clipperland and Utah

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    Joseph and Blair for Ross is about the only trade I'd consider.

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    I think as Spurs fans we should hope Garnett doesn't end up in Clipperland as that would improve them a lot. On the other hand, Bledsoe would be gone and he's a scary bench player who can turn a game in 5 mins. Still, Clips with KG become super-scary.
    Bledsoe/D.Jordan>>>KG

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    Agreed but everything I've read is saying that the Clippers don't want to give up both Bledsoe and Jordan, just Bledsoe. But it wouldn't matter anyways unless KG agrees to waive his no-trade clause which he's said he won't. My guess is neither team makes any deals by the deadline.
    Well, they don't want to give up both Bledsoe and Jordan for KG but in the trade I've proposed, they also get a not so bad player called Paul Pierce.

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    To me, he's exactly who they want around next season. It's perfect. That would be his senior year, and Mills and/or Neal won't be back.

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    Joseph and Blair for Ross is about the only trade I'd consider.
    Joseph and Blair don't have that kind of value but you should know it.

    What I find interesting is that Spurs wants to stick with Joseph despite the fact that he doesn't play at all with Spurs this year. They might think he has a chance to be a part of the rotation in the future. I like it because, even if he is raw/young, I find that Joseph is an intriguing player.

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    Joseph and Blair don't have that kind of value but you should know it.

    What I find interesting is that Spurs wants to stick with Joseph despite the fact that he doesn't play at all with Spurs this year. They might think he has a chance to be a part of the rotation in the future. I like it because, even if he is raw/young, I find that Joseph is an intriguing player.
    To me, they used the farm system as a safe way to keep him around like if he went to Europe or played in college still, but they own his rights. He's basically being taught to be a perfect Spurs (combined with his skill set). Him and Nando are probably their future backups. Both bring versatility to their positions: CJ (steady PG game and solid D), Nando (crafty creative play maker who can play 1-2-3 positions with his size).

    I like that the Spurs are finding versatile guys. It helps a lot.

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    Joseph and Blair don't have that kind of value but you should know it.

    What I find interesting is that Spurs wants to stick with Joseph despite the fact that he doesn't play at all with Spurs this year. They might think he has a chance to be a part of the rotation in the future. I like it because, even if he is raw/young, I find that Joseph is an intriguing player.
    Yes, I know that there should be no way for Toronto to agree to that trade. But I suggested that because really, there's not much they have at this point to give for such a small contract. The Spurs aren't looking to just dump Joseph (as you already said), so they'd have to get something of value. Toronto can't guarantee a pick for many more years, and their only young assets are Ross and Valanciunas. They're just not a good partner.

    Perhaps a Joseph/Blair/Bonner for Amir Johnson deal would interest the Spurs though.

    I completely agree with you on Joseph, though. With the way De Colo, Mills and Neal have played, there's no reason to think that Joseph couldn't get a chance next year, or even this season.

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    Interesting note. I'm probably making too much of it but this tells me:

    1. Spurs still like Joseph. That hasn't been obvious this year but this report tells me that the Spurs aren't looking to salary dump him or anything.

    2. The FO must see a way that Joseph can become the backup point guard next season. Neal and/or Mills must not be locks to return.

    3. Spurs aren't desperate to shed money. The easiest way to clear salary would be to salary dump Joseph somewhere. Doing that wouldn't hurt the depth at all for this season.

    4. Piggybacking off of #3, a Blair trade must be there for the taking if Joseph isn't being made available.

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    To me, they used the farm system as a safe way to keep him around like if he went to Europe or played in college still, but they own his rights. He's basically being taught to be a perfect Spurs (combined with his skill set). Him and Nando are probably their future backups. Both bring versatility to their positions: CJ (steady PG game and solid D), Nando (crafty creative play maker who can play 1-2-3 positions with his size).

    I like that the Spurs are finding versatile guys. It helps a lot.
    The investment isn't exactly the than for a player who is in Europe. Spurs have still spend $3.2M in salary for Joseph and will have to decide whether or not to invest an additional $2M at the end of next training camp.

    I agree with you that a Joseph/De Colo back court looks good on paper. I thing that De Colo best spot is as a creative SG. The only thing that doesn't work with that scenario is that Spurs have really used De Colo as a PG this year. Do they think it's his best position or at they playing him at PG because they don't have another option?

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    And regarding next season backup PG slot, Dwight Buycks has been awesome this year in France. I don't know if Spurs are still following him after his summer league with them but I wouldn't be surprised to see him ending with a NBA team next season.

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