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The opposite - confirmed they aren't locked out
so did they confirm used games being locked out?
The opposite - confirmed they aren't locked out
I'm sure Sony is being tight-lipped about games and features that they're going to unveil the closer we get to the launch and E3 for that matter but nothing that was mentioned be it games or system features made me excited for the PS4. In a pure hardware standpoint, it's cool to see that they're using a X86 CPU instead of shoving that CELL processor down everyone's throats. The 8 GB of system ram is pretty damn good for a console that is expected to mul ask with that UStream video recording feature and whatever else Sony has in mind. I think I read that the PS3 has 512 MB which is insane if you think about it but it's also why the PS3 could never fully grow in the XMB because of this limitation.
Just FYI, the Playstation 4 has about equivalent graphical processing power as the $600 computer I just built with a mid-high end current gen video card in it (1.80 TFLOPS). The PS4 will be more dated than PCs the day it launches. Same with Xbox too, I'm sure.
meh
Im not getting the PS4
Graphics never have and never will make or break a game or system for me unless maybe they are complete and utter . Probably a extreme minority of gamers actually gives a flying about a 1.80 TFLOPS or any of that .
A PC, even more powerful than a new game console is still just a general purpose computer. Consoles like the PlayStation series and X-Box series are special purpose computers with circuity tailored for one purpose.
Exactly... And people will be paying the silly price tag when these ty console come out....by then, that 600 rig you built will be 400.
??LOL CONSOLES
Yeah no bro. It's not like Sony is going to put $1500 worth of comparable PC parts and try to sell it in the console sweet spot of $400-$500. Wouldn't make financial sense. They'll probably take a loss when the console hits and as the parts lower in price and production costs lower as well, they'll make a profit on every console gain in a year or two.
There's this thing called options bro. You don't have to choose one or the other, you can choose both. Play the PC version of the game (if it's multiplatform) on the PC and play the console exclusive on the respective console. We're not paying for consoles because the horsepower underneath, the normal person who isn't into PCs is paying for consoles because of the simplicity (not having to tweak games or systems), the multipurpose of system as well as the exclusive games for them. As long as Sony and Nintendo continue to make games, people will continue to buy their consoles.
your console vs PC mentality is hilarious. No one is forcing you to buy one or the other.
Love this post.There's this thing called options bro. You don't have to choose one or the other, you can choose both. Play the PC version of the game (if it's multiplatform) on the PC and play the console exclusive on the respective console. We're not paying for consoles because the horsepower underneath, the normal person who isn't into PCs is paying for consoles because of the simplicity (not having to tweak games or systems), the multipurpose of system as well as the exclusive games for them. As long as Sony and Nintendo continue to make games, people will continue to buy their consoles.
Some people, specially the PC gamers (and probably the only ones) get hung up on this fact that consoles aren't meant for much other than entertainment purposes. Its not supposed to be the latest and greatest super console/computer that does all this extra things besides gaming.
PC gamers seem to be insecure about this. You mention console and they go on a defense tirade for some reason.
That's really not the issue here. And if it is, why even bother buying a Ps4? Why bother even looking at the new systems? The PS3 has capable graphics from a generation or two ago, and unless you've played every game, there are "new" les out there to enjoy. You're telling me, "graphics don't matter" yet you're willing to drop $500+ on a system to meet that end. It doesn't add up.
That's actually exactly what they did with the Ps3. It was outrageously expensive at launch - $600. But it cost Sony something like $1300 to make each Ps3, if I remember correctly.
It's not, but we're quickly approaching a point of diminishing returns on consoles because PCs are so cheap these days. When the Ps3 and 360 came out, they were pretty far ahead of the PC architecture at the time. I think the year after, PC started to catch up with it's top end cards, but it still cost $1200+ to put together a system. Now, gaming rigs can be made for ~$500 or less with the new AMD APUs.There's this thing called options bro. You don't have to choose one or the other, you can choose both. Play the PC version of the game (if it's multiplatform) on the PC and play the console exclusive on the respective console. We're not paying for consoles because the horsepower underneath, the normal person who isn't into PCs is paying for consoles because of the simplicity (not having to tweak games or systems), the multipurpose of system as well as the exclusive games for them. As long as Sony and Nintendo continue to make games, people will continue to buy their consoles.
Choices are great, but at this point PCs are just a much better value overall, especially if you build it yourself. And honestly, the simplicity argument is almost a non-issue these days. It does take some skill to build a system, but gaming on a computer is incredibly easy with services like Steam and GOG that take care of everything for you, and are incredibly reliable.
But you're now paying $500+ for a gaming system. That is a huge chunk of money. I wouldn't call it insecurity, I would call it being flummoxed by the fact that people are still willing to pay premium dollar for consoles that are aging so quickly.
It's not just gamers that are stating how limited consoles are.PC gamers seem to be insecure about this. You mention console and they go on a defense tirade for some reason.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/20/cr...n-consoles-pc/
Flipping hilarious.
Thanks for your paragraph long responses...
And I'm insecure?
Cry Havoc with the goods and crushing the console kiddies per par
"BOOM! Blue and orange!!"
"Cell phones aren't just for taking pictures of kids. You can use them to hack into cash machines and saxophones."
It is a good chunk of money but same can be say for just about anything.
Not everyone likes to be tied up or limited to just one thing.
Sure you can can build your own computer for cheap but not everyone has the time or the knowledge. Some people like certain products and so they buy it.
Take this for example, just because you can make free calls with skype doesn't mean you should go with that because its cheap. You're only limiting yourself that way.
Overpriced, PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>Consoles
You seen pretty insecure and acting like an emo little .
Why are you getting all wet from the fact that a computer is superior to a gaming console. [insert no here]
LOL crushing and taking this all too seriously. Are you in your teens?
Damn I should've read this post before quoting him.
Basically said the same thing. I'm just smh here.
Congregate.
Damnit, thanks
So, just to be clear here:
You're posting in a sports forum meant almost entirely/exclusively for the purposes of discussion, while simultaneously turning your nose up at people who would debate the issue with you? Of course you have a choice. I even said that's a good thing. I'm just debating the alternatives and the relative advantages/disadvantages of consoles and PCs.
I fail to understand how debating soccer is so grown up and manly but debating video games is something for teenagers, especially since you're posting in a tech section.
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