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    In all seriousness I agree rights need to be protected. Madcow is not a credible source to do it.
    You realize you're debating with a 23 yr old kid who's never had a job, paid taxes, or mowed a lawn right?

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    it was indeed a blunder
    bull . head/rummy/perle/connie/feith/etc KNEW EXACTLY what they were doing, GOING AFTER THE OIL.



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    Can anyone name the last president that hasn't committed this type of mass murder?
    Al Gore

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    I debated him about Evolution he was maybe the only one who actually took my evidence serious and commented on him not having all the facts.

    So keep that in mind next time you all decide to cyber rape Wild Cobra like he's Jody Foster in the movie The Accused.


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    cuz she's not on fox, silly.
    No just she lets her bias show.

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    You realize you're debating with a 23 yr old kid who's never had a job, paid taxes, or mowed a lawn right?
    Obama generation.

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    No just she lets her bias show.
    So no examples at all, just bull .

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    No just she lets her bias show.



    Something Fox has never done.

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    It's mostly all propaganda, tbh.

    Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Every now and again there will be a decent story, for the most part they all suck, pure propaganda. They aren't news, they are a business funded by corrupt bas s.

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    Example


    Pathetic Media Outraged Over Obama Golf Secrecy, But Not Drone Assassinations


    Youtube - TYT

    The White House Press Corps is finally standing up to the president on his transparency...over a golf game with Tiger Woods. What about real news?



    when Cenk says to the msm, "You suck at your jobs!"

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    People like to pretend everything is OK.

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    sean Jacquemotte making more stuff up about me
    can't get me out of his tiny little war-obsessed head
    zionist mercenary
    can't talk to me anymore about college or the job I have, so he's resorted to wind-shield wiper smack

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    The United States of Aftermath

    The roots of the Iraq war trace back to the founding in 1997 of a Washington DC think-tank called The Project for a New American Century (PNAC).

    The core mission of PNAC was to establish what they called "Pax Americana" across the globe. Essentially, their goal was to transform America, the sole remaining superpower, into a planetary empire by force of arms. A report released by PNAC in September of 2000 en led "Rebuilding America's Defenses" codified this plan. Author Norman Podhoretz, a PNAC signatory, quantified the other aspect of the PNAC plan in the September 2002 issue of his journal, "Commentary." In it, Podhoretz noted that the Mideast regimes "that richly deserve to be overthrown and replaced, are not confined to the three singled-out members of the axis of evil. At a minimum, the axis should extend to Syria and Lebanon and Libya, as well as 'friends' of America like the Saudi royal family and Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, along with the Palestinian Authority, whether headed by Arafat or one of his henchmen." At bottom, according to Podhoretz, war against Iraq was about "the long-overdue internal reform and modernization of Islam."


    PNAC was the driving force behind the drafting and passage of the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, a bill that essentially turned their desire for war into American law. PNAC funneled millions of taxpayer dollars to a group called the Iraqi National Congress, and to the man they intended to be Iraq's heir-apparent, Ahmed Chalabi, despite the fact that Chalabi was sentenced in absentia by a Jordanian court to 22 years in prison on 31 counts of bank fraud. Chalabi and the INC gathered support for their cause by promising oil contracts to anyone who would help overthrow Saddam Hussein and put them into power in Iraq.

    the members of PNAC - once on the outside looking in - soon found themselves walking the halls of power and holding positions of enormous influence. Among these members were Vice President Cheney; Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's chief of staff; Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz; National Security Council member Eliot Abrams; Undersecretary of State John Bolton, who also served as America's ambassador to the UN; and Richard Perle, chairman of the powerful Defense Policy Board.

    Maddow and her friends in the "news" media will, in the coming weeks, give us their various interpretations on how it came to happen, but none of them will bother to delve into the question of why it happened. The answer to that is too simple, and cuts too close to the bone: the war in Iraq cost more than three trillion dollars ($3,000,000,000,000.00) to execute. Every bullet fired, every bomb dropped, every MRE eaten, every helicopter shot down, every missile fired, every truck destroyed by an IED, every oil well guarded, every uniform worn, and every body bag filled translated into a slice of that money going to a company connected to the PNAC members of the Bush administration, who lied us into that war as an expression of their personal principles and in fulfillment of their dreams. Halliburton, KBR, United Defense, the Carlyle Group, independent military contractors like Blackwater and a crowd of American oil companies are still counting the riches they earned from their participation in the carnage.

    The war against Iraq, in the end, was nothing more or less than a massive money-laundering operation that took American taxpayer dollars, soaked them in blood, and redirected them to Certain Friends In High Places. It was, as I said years ago, a smash-and-grab robbery writ large, aided and abetted by an American "news" media which had its own profit motive, and which made a nifty sum off the whole deal. Even better for them, today they get to enjoy the ratings and advertising dollars to come when they broadcast their somber "do entaries" about how terrible it all was, how many lies were told, how many mistakes were made, and all without ever looking inward at their own enormous complicity.


    They say the war is over now, but Halliburton is still getting paid to "rebuild" Iraq, the military contractors are still there, bombs are still going off all over the country, the hundreds of thousands of civilians who were killed are still dead, the hundreds of thousands of civilians who were wounded and maimed are still scarred, and many of the millions who were displaced are still not home. Almost 5,000 American soldiers are still dead, nearly 40,000 more are still scarred, and the VA is utterly incapable of dealing with the aftermath.



    http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14...s-of-aftermath

    Barry is WORSE than dubya, is pure right-wing bull .

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    Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.

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    Truth bombs by Abby Martin on the msm faking war propaganda. Nothin but the facts..

    Abby Martin takes a look at MSNBC's recent do entary about the lies leading up the Iraq war, and the closer look at the corporate media's complicity in selling war to the American people by highlighting multiple staged events.

    Abby Martin: Media Fakes War Propaganda | Weapons of Mass Distraction


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    Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.
    the vast majority of Americans are sheeple, are disaffected by the political disaster. The ones that aren't are extreme right wingers who are ALL WAR, ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE. They hate govt, but love Repug lies and misgovernance.

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    Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.



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