Trade Deadline Deals and Rumors

[Obstructed_View]

Depends who the shooter is.

It didn't last year.

[freetiago]

Spurfans favorite word after heroball
"fluke shot"

every teams roleplayers since 08 just happen to hit "fluke" shots vs us while our role players wither away

[Chinook]

Yep, Danny Green starts when the starter-caliber players come off the bench. Jack's in the rotation as a small forward. Doesn't change the fact that he's better at Green's position than Green is.

Sure does. There's no reason to believe Jack is a better two than Green except what you want to believe based off the distant (in NBA terms) past and a handful of moments. Green is a starter-caliber two, as is Ginobili. Jack is a bench-caliber two and a starter-caliber three. Nothing wrong with that.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Source: Atlanta Hawks blow up deal at last minute that would've sent Josh Smith to Milwaukee. Hawks would've re-
ceived Ekpe Udoh, Luc Mbah-Moute, Beno Udrih and a protected No. 1 pick. Can't imagine the Bucks are happy having invested so much time in trying to make it happen. Leaves big question now if Hawks can do better this summer.


Why would the Hawks not take this deal instead of letting him walk?? Danny Ferry, we taught you better than this.

It is far from certain that he will walk for nothing. I think Ferry is hoping to entice Howard to Atlanta to play with his bud, J Smooth. He would probably agree to paying the max to Smith if it means getting Howard. If that doesn't work the signing team will still need to do a sign-and-trade in order for Smith to get the 5th year. Although the Milwaukee offer seemed pretty good to me, obviously Ferry thinks it is worth waiting for better.

[DesignatedT]

That's because they had guys who can shoot.

[Mel_13]

It is far from certain that he will walk for nothing. I think Ferry is hoping to entice Howard to Atlanta to play with his bud, J Smooth. He would probably agree to paying the max to Smith if it means getting Howard. If that doesn't work the signing team will still need to do a sign-and-trade in order for Smith to get the 5th year. Although the Milwaukee offer seemed pretty good to me, obviously Ferry thinks it is worth waiting for better.

That changed under the new CBA. Sign and trade contracts are limited to 4 yrs with the lower annual increases.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

If Green can finish at the rim like he did against the Kings, on a regular basis. Then he can be considered starting material.

[Pasta Batman]

It didn't last year.

I know, but the odds of that happening at that rate again are very low. Ibaka is a good midrange shooter though. And they don't have Cook anymore, thankfully.

[Obstructed_View]

Sure does. There's no reason to believe Jack is a better two than Green except what you want to believe based off the distant (in NBA terms) past and a handful of moments. Green is a starter-caliber two, as is Ginobili. Jack is a bench-caliber two and a starter-caliber three. Nothing wrong with that.

Translation: Jack's better, but don't look at the evidence.

[Obstructed_View]

I know, but the odds of that happening at that rate again are very low. Ibaka is a good midrange shooter though. And they don't have Cook anymore, thankfully.

Let's hope so. It was mostly a joke, but I'm not real comfortable with the strategy of "leave X guy alone because he can't shoot". Most NBA players are good shooters if you don't go anywhere near them.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine Golden State indeed made its two tax-shaving trades before 3 PM deadline: Jeremy Tyler to Atlanta and Charles Jenkins to Philly

I think Jeremy Tyler eventually will be a very good player. He is the player I was hoping the Spurs would draft instead of Corey Joseph. I would have done him for Blair and a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat.

[Chinook]

Translation: Jack's better, but don't look at the evidence.

No. It means don't use the fact that he was a two in his prime as justification of why he's a two now. It also means don't use the fact that he hit threes against the Thunder as justification of him being better than Green when Jack was terrible for most of the stretch run.

And according to 82games.com Jack hasn't even played the two this season.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12SAS10.HTM

[Pasta Batman]

Let's hope so. It was mostly a joke, but I'm not real comfortable with the strategy of "leave X guy alone because he can't shoot". Most NBA players are good shooters if you don't go anywhere near them.

Spurs D focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shot. They'll have to do something about Ibaka midrangers, more often. However, they don't have Harden and that weakens Collison since they can't do p&r as often.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando.

[cd98]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando.

Does that mean the execs for the Wizards and the Bucks? Not sure if that is a compliment.

[BatManu20]

Kenyon Martin signing a 10 day contract with the Knicks, as expected.

[FlAVaK]

Marc J Spears: "Knicks have agreed to sign veteran forward Kenyon Martin to a 10-day contract, a source told Yahoo! Sports."

[timtonymanu]

Adding more Thuggets to the Knicks.

[Mel_13]

Kenyon Martin signing a 10 day contract with the Knicks, as expected.

So much for signing with a contender.

[Mel_13]

Adding more Thuggets to the Knicks.

4th member of the 07-08 Nuggets on the team. Maybe Iverson will make a comeback.

[timtonymanu]

I had Melo, JR, and K-Mart. But I totally forgot about Camby.

[palangi]

I think Jeremy Tyler eventually will be a very good player. He is the player I was hoping the Spurs would draft instead of Corey Joseph. I would have done him for Blair and a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat.

me too. i wish we could have used blair somehow to bring in tyler.

[Texas_Ranger]

I had Melo, JR, and K-Mart. But I totally forgot about Camby.

If only Billups was still in NY. They could play the Nuggets starting 5.

[Richie]

Blazers didn't even have to give up a draft pick for Maynor? They literally got him for nothing, great deal for the Blazers if true. Can't believe the Thunder gave him up so cheap

[Obstructed_View]

Spurs D focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shot. They'll have to do something about Ibaka midrangers, more often. However, they don't have Harden and that weakens Collison since they can't do p&r as often.

No, Spurs STRATEGY focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shooter. When the defense leaves a guy completely open, that's a problem.