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Not if James keeps playing like he is.
If the Spurs end up with the best record in the NBA does he have a true shot at winning the MVP?
We all know that LBJ is the best player in the NBA but there has been discussion about how even though MJ was #1 throughout his years, Barkley and Malone were still able to win.
I say YES. If Parker continues to play like this and Spurs are #1 record wise at the end of the season, he should be MVP. Even over Durant.
Not if James keeps playing like he is.
No.
I'd put money on Parker finishing outside the top 3 for MVP, let alone winning the whole thing.
Nope. Lebron's got it in the bag. All you need is the popular vote and media hype, and Lebron already has that.
It's hard to imagine this actually happening, but if Parker maintains this level of play, the MVP award would jump a few levels of legitimacy in my eyes if he wins it. Would be absolutely crazy and unexpected, having watching Tony his whole Spurs career.
As of now, I would put Tony at #2 behind only LeBron. Spurs do have better record and that should be counted to MVP votes, but LeBron is really at his own level, nobody comes even close.
Lebron James is in Zeus mode.
Not a chance in . If Parker finishes third, that would be good.
If TP was 6'8 , he'd be the MVP hands down, all the love that Tony was given tonight is the closest we're gonna get to hearing him being called MVP. Here's hoping LBJ goes on a slump!
LeBron is the best player in basketball. Right now, Parker might be second. At worst he's third.
As far as MVP, it's tough to say. Jordan didn't win it a few times when he was obviously the best player in the league, so being the best doesn't always equate to winning it. But unfortunately for Parker, it's probably impossible for him to pass Durant for the second best player in the popular view. And it'd be pretty difficult for him to pass CP3. For some reason, CP3 has somehow locked himself into being considered the best PG in the league no matter happens.
Unfortunately, this is true. I mentioned the same thing in the game thread, but in true realization, LBJ has it.
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Its crazy to think about, but my basis is based on how Jordan could have easily won more than 5 MVP's. He probably should have been MVP for every year he played in the 90's.
If Lebron wins this year, it would be 4 MVP's in the last 5 years and will be on pace to easily pass up MJ with more MVP's.
I understand it would take basically a miracle for the media to vote for him above LBJ, Durant & CP3 but we've seen some miracles already, like Parker winning WC player of the month, first spur to do that since i believe 2002 when Duncan won it.
The best precedent for Parker's campaign is Derrick Rose's win in 2011, though Tony won't get his scoring average anywhere near 25 ppg and thus, won't have the raw scoring numbers that Rose had that season. But the problem he must overcome is the one that timvp notes: even with Parker playing as well as he has recently, few in the media are willing to accept the proposition that he's even the best player at his position in the league. I heard someone today say that Paul is the best PG by far, and that Parker is currently 2nd with the immediate caveat that Derrick Rose hasn't played and that if Rose played, Rose would be second. So, even at his very, very best, Tony Parker is perceived in the MVP electorate to be a lesser player than a guy who hasn't even played this year. Add on top of that the complete unwillingess to consider the idea that anyone in the league could compare to either Lebron or Durant, and I don't think there's any realistic chance that Parker gets enough votes to win MVP now or ever.
I think the more realistic question is whether the NBA media could be swayed enough by Tony's play to give him enough votes to make First Team all-league this year. I think that's going to take the voters: (1) concluding that Parker has had a better season than CP3; and (2) deciding that one of the guard spots should be awarded to a point guard rather than a second shooting guard. First Team All-NBA would be a stellar outcome for Tony Parker.
Exactly what I think. LeBron and Durant got the praise by their play and team record. CP3 is a top 5 player for sure, but he is deemed as No.1 PG by default is so befuddled. Like the Spurs swept the Clippers last year, but many people still put them ahead of Spurs (at least before tonight's game), and their reasoning is simply because they have CP3.
I can understand Thunder is the favorite as they are the defending West Conference Champion and beat Spurs 4:2. But CP3 never beat the Spurs before and his deepest play-off run is only 2nd round.
To me personally, Rose was a wrong choice. People just wanted to penalize LeBron because of THE Decision.
Claim? Legit. Shot? Nope.
I wouldn't call TP winning WC player of the month a miracle, but more well deserved. In regards to the TPMVP, the media, the fans, and the coaches, all see that he's at that level; lead your team to the top of the league with injuries, and score at a high scoring percentage with limited TO's, then yes, he's the top dog. Unfortunately the media still recognizes CP ahead of TP, and that is a shame.
Didn't we cry the same complaint last year? Yes. Reason this season is more significant than the last: TP keeps improving. Not only improving, but improving at an incredible rate.
When will we see justice? Most likely never. That is why we are Spurs fans; true fans will always take the when it comes, and keep rolling with it, even though our should be recognized
Ya, I would definitely be content with him being selected 1st team. That would still be a huge accomplishment for him, and some very much deserved recognition.
I agree with FWD. If Parker stays healthy and even can keep 90% of the level, the true goal should be All-NBA first team. That would be a GREAT accomplishment. I have a bad feeling that CP3 probably "won" that All-NBA first team nod before this season even started, though, unfortunately.
And Kobe will get the other guard spot because he's Kobe
I would put both Tony and CP3 into the first team. KB does not deserve it, at all. But those media people will vote him in.
No doubt that reality doesn't always keep up with perception -- particularly in the NBA and even more particularly with the NBA's fanboy media. I tend to think that if coaches voted for the all-league teams, Tony's first team nod would already be pretty salted away (he'd likely be the leader as we head down the stretch). But with the vote in the media's hands, it wouldn't shock me to find that both Paul and Westbrook (and perhaps even Kyrie Irving) get more All-NBA votes than Tony ultimately does.
Key words, "media's hands".
I said last year Parker should have finished 3rd or even higher. I think he finished 5th? What's the criteria? Best player on the best team with the best record? Best player on an upstart team? Don't think anyone knows anymore. They should rename it the LeBron. He'll win it for the forseable future.
Which is strange. Jordan 'only' won 5? He was widely regarded as the best player in the NBA but they seemed to share it around more back in the day.
Nope, Lebron and Durant are the favorites and deservedly so, they do by far more heavy lifting than any other player in the league.
Assuming that things stay fairly close to their current status the rest of the way, I think the two pieces of recognition that should be due to the Spurs for this season are Parker being First All-NBA and R.C. Buford winning (at long last) Executive of the Year. (I don't see anyone else in particular who's made the sort of paradigm-shifting move that typically wins the Executive of the Year award; at some point, the choices that have built this roster after the flameouts of 2009-11 and have left it capable of winning even when the Big 3 sit out are pretty exceptional).
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