cp is tony parkers , parker doesnt get enough credit imo, he should be considered best PG in the league tbh
Not buying until he proves he can do it in the playoffs. Parker's had us "convinced" before that this was the year he finally evolved into a superstar capable of carrying a team through a playoff series against a contender. And he's always disappointed. Every time.
Leading the Finals sweep doesnt count? Sure Tim was still the real MVP of that team but Parker led then that FINALS against s potential GOAT
Parker is the most underrated player of the past 10 years. Guy is the best PG in the league right now and gets very little love. But whatever, he doesn't mind, and I don't either as long as we keep winning.
Bruce was the true MVP of that finals tbh.
Tim was the best player the earlier 3 series.
church.
1. I agree that TP being a No. 1 option on a championship team is still a big question mark. He's playing damn well but I don't know if he's physically capable of reaching the LeBron, Prime Duncan, Prime Shaq level.
2. The OP was talking about who is the best PG. What contender has CP3 defeated in the playoffs?
3. Parker was the best player on the Spurs in 2007 vs. the Suns. His Game 1 performance probably was the most important performance of the entire playoffs that year for the Spurs in retrospect. The Suns were probably the 2nd best team in the NBA, so it sounds to me like that fits your criteria.
4. This is the first time I've ever though TP is the best PG in the league. Right now, it's not really debatable.
5. Being the best PG in the league in February doesn't mean anything so, yeah, still a long ways to go.
TP was just the 3rd best player in that series tbh
Lil dawg be ballin'.
he fkn stole duncan fmvp him
duncan still got his stats that series, dont know why he got robbed...
It will be very interesting to see what the rest of the media has to say on the subject after Charles Barkley's comments. Tonight's performance was pretty eye opening.
Doesn't matter how good he is, at the end of the day he's a PG.
You'd take his 32 and 8 with 5 TOs over Duncan's 33 and 16 and 3 blocks? After that game, Parker was somewhat inconsistent. He followed up that game with 13 points on 5-14 shooting. And in the most important game of the series (game 5), he scored 11 points on 5-13 shooting.
That series is Parker's playoff career in a nuts , and very much symbolizes my issue with him. Great for one game. Mediocre for the next, or even the next two. Great again. Then back to mediocre. For the Spurs to have any chance at winning the West and beating one of the top contenders, he's going to have to produce a consistent 25 points per game on a solid percentage over an entire series. He can't tease with 30 points in one game and then follow up with 15 the next.
And the ability to maintain that kind of consistency is what typically separates the superstars from the stars.
Yeah. Tony beasted against the likes of Boobie Gibson and Damon Jones.
When he can do it against OKC, the Heat, or even the in' Lakers (a franchise he always seems to himself against) if they sneak into the 8th, then I'll gladly jump on the bandwagon.
Until then, it's all regular season sound-and-fury signifying nothing.
Well, yeah, championship caliber superstar is a damn high bar. Right now, the only two players in the league who I would put on that level are LeBron and Durant. (And even Durant has me unsure at times since he lets Westbrook do so much of the leading without ever correcting his bad habits.) Can Parker reach that level? Probably not.
Two questions because I'm curious:
1. Is there a point guard in recent history who you think qualifies as a "superstar"? Personally, I'm not sure one does since Magic, tbh.
2. What players in the league do you consider to be superstars?
Jason Kidd circa 2002-2003? Closest I can think of.
Yep. Not many PG superstars. Ironically, it's probably the most important position in basketball but also the one that has the least impact, since point guards are typically the smallest players on the court and just can't affect the game like the best wings and bigs.
I, too, think Lebron and Durant are the only two players who meet that superstar criteria. The type of player who can will an unwilling team to a playoff series victory against a contender. I know it's unfair to ask that of Parker, considering his position, but I'd settle for him being a "fringe" superstar, since I am hopeful that Duncan and Manu can still contribute at a high level. If the Spurs can just get a solid 23 and 8 from Parker against the Thunder (or the Heat) then they'll have a chance. And what I mean by "solid" is a consistent 20 to 25 point effort each and every game, with maybe a "step-up" 30-35 point game included. If Parker does the whole 30 points here, 12 points there routine, the Spurs don't stand a chance against those teams.
When has CP3 ever blown through he playoffs and won ? Seriously question.TP was huge againt LA in 03 and 04 quite a few games he beasted! He always did well against LA because they had No PG, you show there you have no clue what you are talking about because he usually shoed up against LA.
parker really is under rated, seems like he slides under the radar somehow, but if he goes down theres trouble for SA, when everyone else went down in their last stretch, duncan, kawhi, etc.. someone remind me but spurs were 6-1 i cant remember.
Spurs won in Chicago without the big three.
superstars dont beat their wives...
they put together a solid few wins without ginobli leonard or duncan.. parker carried them
Parker didn't play in Chicago, that's what I meant.
dude didnt adjust his game when phil jackson close the lanes from his penetration, he is as much responsible as duncan or whoever didnt bother to show up during those laker dominance years...
o yeah, impressive team win, but thats 1 game u know
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