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every time I see that nickname, it makes me laugh. The thought of Bryant sitting alone in a dark room trying to come up with the most menacing nickname for himself, and settling on "Mamba," which is so incredibly effeminate. Damn.
Good post from an objective Spurs fan, a rarity here.
harden is better. ( maybe not a couple of years ago when kobe was younger but right now, today, harden is better )
stupid thread.
look who the lakers were playing too thont.
bet kobe cant drop 45 against a REAL team lyk OKC lyk harden did.
I think he is the ebst SG in the west, but he is overrated in the Clutch. And get his mamba out of your ass, lmao at the MJ comparisons.
You can't b serious. Harden is better than Kobe? Even for a Kobe hater like me, that statement is stretching it. Close to current Kobe, maybe in a couple of years, but he ain't won jack squat yet. So even if his stats are similar to Kobe's, he is not yet, nor may he ever be as good as Kobe is right now.
LMAO @ Harden > Kobe
Pure foolishness.
You haven't been posting much this season..hm..
Only posts when the Lakers win or Kirby has a good game.
Poor man's version of cobbler, who you know will roll on in if the Lakers make the playoffs.
kobe is on another level.. harden is light years behind him. 1st time starting in his career, and hes the best. lmao
If there is a silver lining to the Lakers making the playoffs, is it that we may see appearances from cobbler, Blessings, etc..
we're talking right now... right now, in the west, Harden > Kirby...
Eric Gordon is actually shooting better than Mamba, but he's not healthy long enough, so we'll leave him out.
In the NBA: Wade > Harden > Kirby
Gotta giive credit to whitemamba for keeping his grill throughout the year.
now? kobe is still the best shooting guard in the league. He plays more minutes, and carries more responsibility then wade and harden. Kobe has to get every one involved and find his shot as well as guard the best player. Wade is robin, and harden does what ever he wants out there.
As it is now, Kobe is better.
But why?
Check the standings, Harden is higher, yes. But Kobe's team is full of roleplayers and losers. And Harden has Lin, chinese hero of the future.
Thus, Kobe is better...
You just mad cuz you were wrong about det Kobe.
kobes so good it hurts him
No he isn't, simple as that.
had the poor guy in your avatar not lost half his brain he would've probably been just as good as harden imho. and if MWP had hit harden harder with his elbow last year he would've looked just the same as this guy in your avatar tbh
As of today (before tonight's games)
38.2 MPG, 27.1 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 5.6 APG, 1.3 SPG, 3.6 TO, .469 FG%, .330 3P%, .849 FT%, 22.97 PER
38.5 MPG, 26.4 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 5.6 APG, 1.9 SPG, 3.7 TO, .454 FG%, .362 3P%, .857 FT%, 23.70 PER
Who the best SG in the league is currently is still debatable. Statistically, they have near identical numbers. I don't think the defense of either guy is dramatically or significantly better than the other's to make it a point of distinction. And the difference in team record is 2 games in the loss column right now. If you believe Harden has taken over as the league's best SG, it's not a bad opinion. But vice versa if you believe it's still Kobe. The two guys are asked to do and are doing a lot for their respective teams. And they've both played very well individually this season. But you can't say with any amount of certainty that it's definitely one over the other, at least not based on the play of each so far this season. It's close enough that how each player ends the season and how they perform in the post season (should either or both guys get there) can be the difference and can make a more compelling case for either guy.
I'm not ready to say Harden is convincingly better than Kobe, but there's absolutley an argument right now that he is better. Harden isn't as good as Kobe was, but he's as good, if not better than Kobe is right now.
Anyone who's still denying this needs to come to grips with the fact that Kobe has been declining for a few years. His defense has slipped the most, but his offense is about as good as it's been for the past few years. Thing is, he funnels all his energy into that now. Harden still does it on both ends and is improving and finding himself.
Next year Harden's going to be better than he is now, while Kobe's only going to get worse at this point. I also like Harden's unselfishness more than Kobe's selfishness. I would take Harden over Kobe in just about every situation except marketability.
That said, I absolutely disagree that he's the "most clutch player in the league". That's been a myth for several years. We've seen his game winning shots stats from 82games.com. He has a ty FG%, which by definition makes him not clutch. He makes game winners, yeah, but he bricks way more than everyone else too since he takes so many.
Kobe is the best because he is a vet with history and gets the benefit of the doubt. I as a rockets fan will put that to rest.
What is re ed is narutoluva and some other lakers fans binging on mamba that worship the guy and overrate him. Harden is RIGHT behind him and will be the better player as soon as next year.
People have been Kobe is declining for the past couple of seasons. He's still putting up elite numbers. The only legit regression is defense, and you could argue that at least part of that is more apathy or disinterest than anything. The struggles of the Lakers as a team gives Kobe critics reason to argue he's fallen off. But while you can question his leadership or his ability to build team chemistry with teammates, you can't really question his level of play. It's still near the top of the league. If he's declining, it's not that noticeable.
In the three head-to-head match-ups between Kobe and Harden this season:
Kobe: 30.3 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 6.7 APG, 3.0 SPG, 43.7 FG%, 25.0 3P%, 73.7 FT%
Harden: 22.0 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 7.3 APG, 0.7 SPG, 37.5 FG%, .267 3P%, 83.3 FT%
I realize that the Rockets won all three games. But it's not like Harden was destroying Kobe. If anything, the head-to-head match-up between the two make a stronger argument for Kobe. Like I said, it's still a debate as to who's better.
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