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[FkLA]

Hmmmmmmmmm....

How did you get that one, tbh, if you don't mind me asking?

Those are pretty tough to get unless you win the diversity lottery (can't be, since Mexico is disallowed from participating), get sponsored for a high skilled job (can't be either, you're still in school), or married an american (don't think you did?)...

Dad was granted Permanent Residence sometime in the late 80s or very early 90s. Eventually he got residence for my mom, me, and my other siblings. Kind of ed up that I dont even know what those reform(s) is/are called but yeah we were one of the few families from my hometown that got them. Or more like my dad was one of the few that applied, since most other people were scared and paranoid from what hes told me.

[ElNono]

Dude, dont be gay. I dont get why you try so hard to fit in. I wasnt even saying you hate the USA or anything like that, all I was saying is that you still have love for Argentina (and Italy too I guess). Otherwise why dont you root for the USA in soccer instead? Theres nothing wrong with that though, Im not hating...I was just using you as an example that its possible to have love for two countries.

You see it as fitting in, I see it as embracing the place that I now call home, tbh... I don't really understand why the reluctance when you've been here for so long (I've permanently moved in '99, so you've been here longer than I have).

Again, not pretending to understand why it happens, but I definitely see that it does, especially with Mexicans. Love is ok, but the full blown la raza pride is completely different story.

As far as soccer, yeah, I normally root for Arg at the NT level when it's a major event. When it's tourneys here up north, I'm with Team USA. But another favorite team of mine is Barcelona from Spain (and this goes way before Messi) and I have nothing to do with Spain... sports are not that important when it comes to that, IMO. I mean, I still don't like the NFL or chosen a team there, same goes for the MLB. I don't particularly enjoy the sports, so there's no point in bandwagoning there.

[ElNono]

Dad was granted Permanent Residence sometime in the late 80s or very early 90s. Eventually he got residence for my mom, me, and my other siblings. Kind of ed up that I dont even know what those reform(s) is/are called but yeah we were one of the few families from my hometown that got them. Or more like my dad was one of the few that applied, since most other people were scared and paranoid from what hes told me.

Probably during the Reagan amnesty. You're a lucky guy. I went through the H1B skilled worker visa, then green card, and eventually citizenship. Doing it right is hard as , takes a lot of time and money.

That's why personally I have little sympathy for the illegals. I understand their struggle, but the line to do things right is tough as and they just jump right in front. Not cool, IMO.

[FkLA]

You see it as fitting in, I see it as embracing the place that I now call home, tbh... I don't really understand why the reluctance when you've been here for so long (I've permanently moved in '99, so you've been here longer than I have).

Again, not pretending to understand why it happens, but I definitely see that it does, especially with Mexicans. Love is ok, but the full blown la raza pride is completely different story.

As far as soccer, yeah, I normally root for Arg at the NT level when it's a major event. When it's tourneys here up north, I'm with Team USA. But another favorite team of mine is Barcelona from Spain (and this goes way before Messi) and I have nothing to do with Spain... sports are not that important when it comes to that, IMO. I mean, I still don't like the NFL or chosen a team there, same goes for the MLB. I don't particularly enjoy the sports, so there's no point in bandwagoning there.

You need to defend wearing an Argie jersey in order to show youre embracing the USA? Or defend rooting for the Argie NT? Theres no need to defend it or say you only do it to draw Manus attention, thats weak...aint nothing wrong with having some love for Argentina or having love for your countrymen. s normal. Thats why youre not the only Argie around the country that goes to Spurs games with Argie flags/jerseys.

[Latarian Milton]

Latinos in general are proud people. Youll see the same type of behavior from all of them, theres just alot more Mexicans than the rest of them. Go to South Beach and youll hear plenty of Spanish and see plenty of Cuban or Puerto Rican flags, even Brazilians. Argies pop up with flags for Spurs games, central Americans for soccer games, etc.



Dude, dont be gay. I dont get why you try so hard to fit in. I wasnt even saying you hate the USA or anything like that, all I was saying is that you still have love for Argentina (and Italy too I guess). Otherwise why dont you root for the USA in soccer instead? Theres nothing wrong with that though, Im not hating...I was just using you as an example that its possible to have love for two countries.

there're many similarities between one's nationality and his imho. for sure you can have two or more nationalities/ es at the same time and that's not morally wrong, but a smart man would probably not brag about one while talking with the other imho. your making a stupid ass of yourself when you speak proudly of being mexican while living and getting paid in the US tbh

[ezau]

You clearly don't think very highly of where you come from, seeing that you left for a different country.

If you don't want to forget it, you're more than welcome to hand your green card in and go back to it.

Interesting response coming from a race that doesn't even have a real country. How much did the Jews pay for Israel again?

[midnightpulp]

You need to defend wearing an Argie jersey in order to show youre embracing the USA? Or defend rooting for the Argie NT? Theres no need to defend it or say you only do it to draw Manus attention, thats weak...aint nothing wrong with having some love for Argentina or having love for your countrymen. s normal. Thats why youre not the only Argie around the country that goes to Spurs games with Argie flags/jerseys.

But there's something wrong with people who have more love for their former countrymen than the countrymen of their new home. Sorry to say, many Mexicans fit that bill.

[ElNono]

You need to defend wearing an Argie jersey in order to show youre embracing the USA? Or defend rooting for the Argie NT? Theres no need to defend it or say you only do it to draw Manus attention, thats weak...aint nothing wrong with having some love for Argentina or having love for your countrymen. s normal. Thats why youre not the only Argie around the country that goes to Spurs games with Argie flags/jerseys.

Well, I literally do it to get Manu's attention. Not sure what you mean by "showing love to Argentina"... I have no love for that country. It's an absolute hole.

The only thing I love about it is the family I still have there. The country itself is trash. The soccer team is ok, but haven't won in a long time... starting to look like the Spurs, tbh...

[Latarian Milton]

You need to defend wearing an Argie jersey in order to show youre embracing the USA? Or defend rooting for the Argie NT? Theres no need to defend it or say you only do it to draw Manus attention, thats weak...aint nothing wrong with having some love for Argentina or having love for your countrymen. s normal. Thats why youre not the only Argie around the country that goes to Spurs games with Argie flags/jerseys.

even if he was american-born, i don't see no problem with him wearing argie jerseys in an attempt to cater for manu tbh. i got a xavi's spanish NT jersey and that's my favorite, while im not at all a spaniard

[ElNono]

I would even add that one of the worst problems with holes like Argentina is that they take soccer way too seriously. I mean, killing people over soccer games? That's uber banana republic right there.

[FkLA]

Probably during the Reagan amnesty. You're a lucky guy. I went through the H1B skilled worker visa, then green card, and eventually citizenship. Doing it right is hard as , takes a lot of time and money.

That's why personally I have little sympathy for the illegals. I understand their struggle, but the line to do things right is tough as and they just jump right in front. Not cool, IMO.

I am, man. I had it real easy compared to what some of the guys the same age as me from my hometown have had to do. If my dad didnt have the balls to apply for it who knows where the Id be.

I can see how it can bother you, I didnt go through a process so I dont understand that feeling. For me what I see is, these kids that are my age and now here illegally could have easily been me...Mexico economy really is and it literally is cross illegally or be poor as dirt.

[Latarian Milton]

mexico has genuinely nothing for its people to feel proud of imho. i could be a and find more elements that make me feel proud of my country than a be@ner could ever find about mexico. you can masturbate to your soccer team's success on olympics but honestly said, no team gives a about olympics. nigeria won the olympic gold medal too iirc.

[ElNono]

I am, man. I had it real easy compared to what some of the guys the same age as me from my hometown have had to do. If my dad didnt have the balls to apply for it who knows where the Id be.

I can see how it can bother you, I didnt go through a process so I dont understand that feeling. For me what I see is, these kids that are my age and now here illegally could have easily been me...Mexico economy really is and it literally is cross illegally or be poor as dirt.

When you add all the fees, taxes (obviously), days off work for fingerprinting, interviews, paperwork, etc... you're looking at well over $10K over a 7-10 year period... and you go through that entire process without knowing , or if some will wake up with the wrong foot and screw you over. It's tough. I could've still headed to Europe if things didn't work out, but once you're married and you're running a business, etc, it's tough as . People that didn't go through it don't understand, IMO.

It should just be easier for those that do it right, that's all I'm saying.

[FkLA]

But there's something wrong with people who have more love for their former countrymen than the countrymen of their new home. Sorry to say, many Mexicans fit that bill.

A bunch of Latinos would fit that bill if we went off of flag waving, rooting for foreign national teams, and speaking Spanish.

[QUOTE=ElNono;6391181]Well, I literally do it to get Manu's attention. Not sure what you mean by "showing love to Argentina"... I have no love for that country. It's an absolute hole.

[baseline bum]

I would even add that one of the worst problems with holes like Argentina is that they take soccer way too seriously. I mean, killing people over soccer games? That's uber banana republic right there.

s do that over baseball games in LA tbh

[midnightpulp]

A bunch of Latinos would fit that bill if we went off of flag waving, rooting for foreign national teams, and speaking Spanish.

I'd be willing to bet that if we polled 10,000 Mexican immigrants asking if they loved Mexico or the US more, an overwhelming majority would choose the former option.

And yes, I understand the psychology behind it. It's the country they were born and raised in, have family in, and have a great deal of nostalgia for. My contention is that if you're going to willingly emigrate from a country in pursuit of a better life to a country that can provide it, you should make the effort to embrace that country as your new home. Too many Mexicans seem to regard the US as nothing more than a workplace, having a similar apathy toward it as an office worker might have toward the corporation they work for.

Granted, that observation is based off my personal experience with newly immigrated Mexicans: They're here more for the work/benefits than wanting to be a part of the American experience.

[HI-FI]

Well, I literally do it to get Manu's attention. Not sure what you mean by "showing love to Argentina"... I have no love for that country. It's an absolute hole.

The only thing I love about it is the family I still have there. The country itself is trash. The soccer team is ok, but haven't won in a long time... starting to look like the Spurs, tbh...

hmmm....i'm sensing a connection, perhaps an Argentinian player who is past his prime and overpaid......

but otherwise, you've dropped some great truth bombs throughout this thread. I don't understand La Raza either, nor do I understand why the media treats an openly racist organization with kid's gloves.

I also don't understand why FkLa or other hispanics are so gleeful about making whites a minority since we can't keep up with their roach like ability to breed. If the Southwest goes brown, which is already happening, it will just become a third world hole like where you guys come from. Do you really want that?

[FkLA]

Wait, yall think La Raza is some kind of organization? A racist one?

Bruh its just a saying. Its slang for 'the people' or 'my s', it doesnt even have to be exclusive to Mexicans either...you can be from anywhere and be considered raza. Like I said it seems like yall make up to about tbh. I think theres a gang in Chicago called that but it aint no Mexican movement or anything like that.

[FkLA]

I'd be willing to bet that if we polled 10,000 Mexican immigrants asking if they loved Mexico or the US more, an overwhelming majority would choose the former option.

And yes, I understand the psychology behind it. It's the country they were born and raised in, have family in, and have a great deal of nostalgia for. My contention is that if you're going to willingly emigrate from a country in pursuit of a better life to a country that can provide it, you should make the effort to embrace that country as your new home. Too many Mexicans seem to regard the US as nothing more than a workplace, having a similar apathy toward it as an office worker might have toward the corporation they work for.

Granted, that observation is based off my personal experience with newly immigrated Mexicans: They're here more for the work/benefits than wanting to be a part of the American experience.

Man, why does it bother you if the fresh immigrants dont immediately assimilate? Give them time and the later generations will have no problem calling the new waves of immigrants s. I have no idea what Mexicans yall talk about that take a bunch of generations to assimilate. A good chunk deteriorate in just about everything else once theyre Americanized though. I think all the little Surenos and Nortenos in Cali give Mexicans a worse name than the illegals tbh.

[cheguevara]

from a picture of 4 fat mexicans to antimexicanism to antisemitism and and religios freedom discussions

Love this forum

[TE]

They're here more for the work/benefits than wanting to be a part of the American experience.

Many illegals, I think, see having the said work/benefits as part of the American experience. This is especially so in cases where an illegal is dirt poor imo.

[cheguevara]

Whats sad is this neo nationalism by some americans as exhibited here will just get worse as the us economy collapses. These poor s will blame the immigrant for the problems the people they voted for created or allowed.

Soon it wont take much for these stained nationalists to become full on racist like the maggots that inhabit the wasteland that is now europe.

And in the end the funniest thing is both groups will be losers just puppets to the ubber rich that played them all along

[benefactor]

High quality morning coffee read. This is the NBA forum I know and love.

[hater]

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

mexico has genuinely nothing for its people to feel proud of imho. i could be a and find more elements that make me feel proud of my country than a be@ner could ever find about mexico. you can masturbate to your soccer team's success on olympics but honestly said, no team gives a about olympics. nigeria won the olympic gold medal too iirc.