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    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...next-contract/

    Ginobili will be back next season, though he says there are no guarantees. At his age, he says, it’s year to year.

    “But ask me right now,” he said Sunday, “and I’d like to play two more years for sure.”
    Nothing incredibly new, I believe Ginobili has said this before. But good to see his head and heart are still in the game.

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    Don't rush any of these guys. There'll be plenty of time to miss them.

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    word.............. it wold be ill if manu was around long enough to mentor hanga .....................

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    This might give some insight into his next (and final) contract. I could see a 3-year, $24M deal with the last year fully unguaranteed (for use in a trade), or maybe partially guaranteed as a golden parachute like McDyess got.

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    I'm fine with that obviously for the right price ! used properly Manu is a great asset to have. I enjoy seeing the big 3 together, the more time the better

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    He better not get more than the league minimum.

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    People in want ice water.

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    a guy who plays 20-25 minutes and is doubtful to even play most of the time to begin with isnt worth 8 mil
    id say around 5 mil since he is Manu

    people are forgetting hed be like 37-38 the next two years
    he wont be able to play any D and be relegated to spotup shooter/passer like Kidd is now

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    a guy who plays 20-25 minutes and is doubtful to even play most of the time to begin with isnt worth 8 mil
    id say around 5 mil since he is Manu

    people are forgetting hed be like 37-38 the next two years
    he wont be able to play any D and be relegated to spotup shooter/passer like Kidd is now
    No he wont. His drop in athleticism will make it tougher to finish at the rim, but his creativity will still allow it.

    That said, I agree around the 5 mill mark would be fine. Can see going as high as 7 but wouldn't like it necessarily.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Ginobili is worth $10M per season the next two years. Technically, looking at the metrics that measure the number of wins the Spurs get from Ginobili being on the team and then multiplying that number by the value of a win, Ginobili will have been worth the $14M he got this season.

    Considering that Duncan set the bar at $10M per season, I think Ginobili will come in under that. If true, whatever he signs for will be a bargain. $7-8M would be a great deal for the Spurs. Even if he wants the same contract Duncan got, I'd give it to him.

    Obviously we all hope Ginobili signs for the lowest amount possible in order to open up salary cap room. But let's not underestimate his true value ... he can still be great at times today and should remain a very good player in the next two seasons.

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    Ginobili = My idol

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    timmy = 10-. parker = 12.5. ginobili = 7.5, but he makes 14+?! woops.

    since ginobili is getting twice his worth this season. i wouldn't be surprised if he signs somewhere around 5. he's just too injury prone.

    the homer in me wants him around for however long at whatever price. manu is a spurs is part of the best era of spurs basketball. because of him, timmy, and tony. my idea of a successful nba roster recipe. a big 3, splitter/leonard/joseph 1st round apprentice types, and minimum/2nd round/scrap cap signees.

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    My thoughts, posted in another thread...

    FWIW, two years would take him out to the end of Duncan and Parker's current deals, so I don't think he just threw it out there coincidentally. I think the framework is there for a 2yr deal at between $6-8M/yr. I would also think if it's year-to-year as he says, the possibility exists for only a partial guarantee in yr 2.

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    if spurs don't get to the finals this year. trade his ass for someone younger. His injury prone ass is still overvalued by most NBA GMs.

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    if spurs don't get to the finals this year. trade his ass for someone younger. His injury prone ass is still overvalued by most NBA GMs.
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    I just don't get this extreme loyalty bull . It's not like Manu will be unemployed and won't be able to feed his children. A trade is not a cruel thing people

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    timvp I would agree that for the duration of his contract Manu had been well worth the 14 mil, which was actually a bargain. But this season has been different as he's had his usual dnp's, along with several (and I mean several) games with minutes south of 20 where he had little to no impact. He is still absolutely vital for postseason success, but I can't say I value Manu as much as Tim at this point, unless he avoids injury. I think 7-7.5 sounds about right. Then again I thought Duncan would ask for 12 a year.

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    Sweet... Manu and Timmy for another 2 years. We are blessed to have been able to watch these greats for so long.

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    I just don't get this extreme loyalty bull . It's not like Manu will be unemployed and won't be able to feed his children. A trade is not a cruel thing people
    Manu deserves to retire a Spur, just like Tim and Tony. He is part of the Big 3 and one of the best players to don a Spurs uniform.

    It would be one thing if he was just a useless liability, but he is still one of the best players on the team, even during his TOSB days.

    We are talking about Manu Ginobili here, not Avery ing Johnson.

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    Even if Spurs "only" pay Manu $6M per year, it will be more than his market value.

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    I'd expect him to get something like 3 years and $20- 24 mil with the 3rd year partially guaranteed.

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    Even if Spurs "only" pay Manu $6M per year, it will be more than his market value.
    This is a good point. What Manu "deserves" (varies by opinion) given his past performance with the Spurs, and what he could get on the open market are very different things.

    Just think about it: what teams out there will be under the cap enough to offer Manu more than the MLE and are also close enough to contention that they could use him as effectively as the Spurs can?

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    Manu says he sees no scenario that would see him switching teams. He wants to be in San Antonio and the Front Office wants him as well.
    He says it close to the end of the interview.

    Here is the audio from Manu on Jim Rome 030513:
    http://jimrome.com/2013/03/05/manu-ginobili/

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    If the Spurs ring and Manu plays an irreplaceable role (which basically must happen for us to beat the Heat) and he doesn't want to retire with 4, then Manu will get $10m/year. Regular season fragility doesn't mean if he can get through the post season without injury putting up 30+ min a game.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Ginobili is worth $10M per season the next two years. Technically, looking at the metrics that measure the number of wins the Spurs get from Ginobili being on the team and then multiplying that number by the value of a win, Ginobili will have been worth the $14M he got this season.

    Considering that Duncan set the bar at $10M per season, I think Ginobili will come in under that. If true, whatever he signs for will be a bargain. $7-8M would be a great deal for the Spurs. Even if he wants the same contract Duncan got, I'd give it to him.

    Obviously we all hope Ginobili signs for the lowest amount possible in order to open up salary cap room. But let's not underestimate his true value ... he can still be great at times today and should remain a very good player in the next two seasons.
    This is exactly why the proliferation of advanced metrics bothers me.

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