Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 60
  1. #1
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    Nash - 2 time MVP, one of the most efficient players and playmakers in the league, makes all around him better.

    Howard - A Superman--like specimen, tossing basketballs through hoops from stratospheric heights. Far and away the most athletic and potentially dominant Center in the league. Bad at ude though.

    Gasol - Declared the best European Bigman in the NBA not named Dirk. Great playmaker and teammate.

    Metta World Peace - One of the best perimeter defenders of our time. Not afraid to chuck threes when necessary and to lay down the law with his fists.

    Kobe - the Mamba, the most destructive and feared player in the NBA for over a decade. Will shoot the basketball until his legs break off and then will keep shooting and demanding the ball until he croaks.

    Bench - never heard of any of these scrubs tbh...

    Aside from the disruptive coaching changes and some injuries (which many other teams including the Spurs have had), why is this team so bad at this late stage of the season? Granted they have come back somewhat, but only against mediocre teams tbh. Can chemistry really be that terrible or is this team really not very good?

    It's hard to fathom that they are just playing possum until it's time to flip the switch.

  2. #2
    Veteran td4mvp2k's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    4,794
    The Most ever in the NBA

  3. #3
    MVParker racm's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,787
    I think they just surpassed the 2002 Bucks. That team came within a game of playing in the Finals, then started out 9-1 and was 28-18 at the All-Star break.

    Then they finished 41-41 and the 9th seed in a pretty diluted East.

  4. #4
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    9,839
    define underachieving ?

  5. #5
    Veteran Halberto's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    2,164
    They are the shining example that a team can have the most collective talent but without chemistry and teamwork talent means nothing. If the Lakers find a way to get even more comfortable and trust each other then the rest of the league is in deep ..... lol Kobe only trusts himself though...

  6. #6
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    define underachieving ?
    Underachieving = not up to their personal best as in the parts are good enough to produce more wins than what is actually being produced by the whole.

  7. #7
    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    12,201
    It pains me to say it but it has to go down as the greatest failure in NBA history. When you look at it from a microscope, there are millions of reasons why it's silly to think this team was going to be great from the beginning. 1) Got older 2) Dwight Howard's injury was just as bad as many people said, if not worst 3) Coaching problems, 4) No depth 5) Outside of Clark, no youth etc etc.

    But excuses aside, this team being under .500 is ridiculous. Even if they make the 8th seed it's beyond embarrassing I have no idea how things will play out, and time usually heals everything. But Jim Buss in 2 years has managed to completely destroy everything his father worked for. This is the equivalent of the Spurs owner switching and them firing everything that has to do with Greg Popovich. Why would you do that? If there was a formula that worked, why would you destroy it and want to do it 'your way'? Jim Buss and at the moment these Lakers deserve this failure.

  8. #8
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    I think they just surpassed the 2002 Bucks. That team came within a game of playing in the Finals, then started out 9-1 and was 28-18 at the All-Star break.

    Then they finished 41-41 and the 9th seed in a pretty diluted East.
    Were Michael Redd and Tim Thomas on that team? I can't remember who they had exactly.

  9. #9
    MVParker racm's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,787
    Lakersarethebesteva: Jim Buss is just like his East Coast cousin Dolan.

  10. #10
    MVParker racm's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,787
    Were Michael Redd and Tim Thomas on that team? I can't remember who they had exactly.
    Starting five was the "Big Three" of Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn Robinson. Then they had Anthony Mason fresh off an All-Star appearance. Their weakest spot was center, with Joel Przybilla getting starts.

  11. #11
    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    12,201
    Lakersarethebesteva: Jim Buss is just like his East Coast cousin Dolan.
    Jerry Buss' worst move was not appointing his daughter as co-owner of the Lakers. She truly is the . What's happened with the Lakers is no different than the movie Gladiator. An amazing leader passes and his power hungry son takes over. The daughter is also the one that was the true ruler but because she's a female, she ultimately will not own the Lakers.

    Very sad, and I'm not sure what happens now. I think Jim Buss will face failure for a few years until ultimately he learns from it and starts making the right moves.

  12. #12
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    D Antoni is really not helping either. I think his wishy washiness and Beta Male approach has a lot to do with the problems that persist. He is truly terrible and his run and gun system won't ever work with this group of guys. Running his system with this personnal is as bad as having someone like Aaron Brooks or Ty Lawson post up everytime down the floor.

  13. #13
    MVParker racm's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,787
    Jerry Buss' worst move was not appointing his daughter as co-owner of the Lakers. She truly is the . What's happened with the Lakers is no different than the movie Gladiator. An amazing leader passes and his power hungry son takes over. The daughter is also the one that was the true ruler but because she's a female, she ultimately will not own the Lakers.

    Very sad, and I'm not sure what happens now. I think Jim Buss will face failure for a few years until ultimately he learns from it and starts making the right moves.
    Hey, at least Jeanie got a ring this season.

  14. #14
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    Jerry Buss' worst move was not appointing his daughter as co-owner of the Lakers. She truly is the . What's happened with the Lakers is no different than the movie Gladiator. An amazing leader passes and his power hungry son takes over. The daughter is also the one that was the true ruler but because she's a female, she ultimately will not own the Lakers.

    Very sad, and I'm not sure what happens now. I think Jim Buss will face failure for a few years until ultimately he learns from it and starts making the right moves.
    Great analogy. I see the parallels there.

  15. #15
    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,898
    Starting five was the "Big Three" of Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn Robinson. Then they had Anthony Mason fresh off an All-Star appearance. Their weakest spot was center, with Joel Przybilla getting starts.
    Very impressive lineup for sure. Now I remember. They were much better than their record. I could see the Lakers having a very very outside chance of advancing past round 1 but only if the higher seed (Spurs, OKC or Clips) gets a major injury or two.

  16. #16
    Go to baselinebums.com NASpurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    30,565
    Isn't Howard the only player in his prime while the others are way past it? And even Howard isn't the same after coming back from back surgery. Not trying to make excuses for them but it's pretty obvious observation. The team is just a disaster from the start either way.

  17. #17
    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    12,201
    BTW aside from me ing around 90% of the time on this account, in real life I have a bet with a few of my friends that the Lakers will miss the playoffs. They are still convinced Lakers have a shot at going far. I've had this bet going since December. I thought I was a lock last month, it looks like I might lose.

  18. #18
    MVParker racm's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,787
    Very impressive lineup for sure. Now I remember. They were much better than their record. I could see the Lakers having a very very outside chance of advancing past round 1 but only if the higher seed (Spurs, OKC or Clips) gets a major injury or two.
    Chemistry was also the problem with that team. Anthony Mason that season makes Dwight this season look like a boy scout in terms of team first at ude.

    George Karl also called him out in the media.

  19. #19
    jthelps.wordpress.com
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    1,887
    BTW aside from me ing around 90% of the time on this account, in real life I have a bet with a few of my friends that the Lakers will miss the playoffs. They are still convinced Lakers have a shot at going far. I've had this bet going since December. I thought I was a lock last month, it looks like I might lose.
    you gon' win that bet imho

  20. #20
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    27,061
    Per media and casual fan hype: Yes.

    Per fans who actually know basketball: No.

    From the start, I called this team one giant lateral move. Even with all the big name acquisitions, I was never sold this team could win a championship, even playing under Mike Brown, which would've had the Lakers playing the proper "grit and grind" system.

    Ultimately, they simply lack the perimeter quickness and depth required to compete for a championship in the modern NBA. Once upon-a-time, size killed in the NBA. Now speed kills. And the Lakers are just about the slowest team in the league.

  21. #21
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    101,216
    I think they just surpassed the 2002 Bucks. That team came within a game of playing in the Finals, then started out 9-1 and was 28-18 at the All-Star break.

    Then they finished 41-41 and the 9th seed in a pretty diluted East.
    Also, the 90-92 Blazers

    And the 2001 Blazers ; best record in the NBA, then after the ASG, they were not the same and I think they finished 7th and lost to L.A in the 1st round

  22. #22
    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    12,201
    Per media and casual fan hype: Yes.

    Per fans who actually know basketball: No.

    From the start, I called this team one giant lateral move. Even with all the big name acquisitions, I was never sold this team could win a championship, even playing under Mike Brown, which would've had the Lakers playing the proper "grit and grind" system.

    Ultimately, they simply lack the perimeter quickness and depth required to compete for a championship in the modern NBA. Once upon-a-time, size killed in the NBA. Now speed kills. And the Lakers are just about the slowest team in the league.
    Solid analysis. I remember hearing bout the Nash acquisition and saying to myself that he wont fit into the offense at all and probably injure his leg early into the season and miss a ton of games. It was that predictable in all honesty. When we acquired Dwight I was ecstatic, I thought this team would have a shot at the finals but no chance against Miami.

    Once I heard some about Mike Brown and the princeton offense I knew it was over. Also, passing up on Barnes, Barbosa, etc was a mistake. They arent much, but when your best 3 point shooter is Jodie Meeks you know you're in trouble.

  23. #23
    Banned
    My Team
    Miami Heat
    Post Count
    6,934
    lakers will make the playoffs with refs on their side, only to get beaten into themselves in the 1st round though

  24. #24
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    3,665
    Per media and casual fan hype: Yes.

    Per fans who actually know basketball: No.

    From the start, I called this team one giant lateral move. Even with all the big name acquisitions, I was never sold this team could win a championship, even playing under Mike Brown, which would've had the Lakers playing the proper "grit and grind" system.

    Ultimately, they simply lack the perimeter quickness and depth required to compete for a championship in the modern NBA. Once upon-a-time, size killed in the NBA. Now speed kills. And the Lakers are just about the slowest team in the league.
    Another perspective on the issue is value for the money... Which might just make the current Lakers indeed the most underachieving in terms of value for the money. I believe they have the biggest amount over the lux tax line in history, and are definitely (with the new CBA) the largest lux tax payers of all time. All for a < .500 basketball team that is unlikely to make the playoffs; that is pretty damnedly underachieving.

    Also, Lakersarethebesteva
    there are millions of reasons why it's silly to think this team was going to be great from the beginning. 1) Got older 2) Dwight Howard's injury was just as bad as many people said, if not worst 3) Coaching problems, 4) No depth 5) Outside of Clark, no youth etc etc.
    You missed one; the "Leadership" has been absolute f'ing garbage. Kobe's job as captain and he hasn't done it. Even with all the other problems, if the horses were willing to pull together and try, that team should be at least a 4th seed. Kobe can't, even by example (by throwing himself on the sword of "passing" - rather than jacking every shot he can), motivate them to sacrifice for each other and the good of the team...

    Before anyone starts making excuses, Jordan coexisted with Pippen. Duncan with Parker and Ginobili. Lebron with Wade and Bosh. Even Durant and Westbrook (and Harden last season). Kobe couldn't live with Shaq in the end, and apparently can't live with Dwight. You can be the Alpha dog, but you gotta lead the pack, not fight with the rest of the pack... but Kobe turns on his own pack when times are tough. He's got the talent, but not the soul to be an all time great.

  25. #25
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    18,142
    It pains me to say it but it has to go down as the greatest failure in NBA history. When you look at it from a microscope, there are millions of reasons why it's silly to think this team was going to be great from the beginning. 1) Got older 2) Dwight Howard's injury was just as bad as many people said, if not worst 3) Coaching problems, 4) No depth 5) Outside of Clark, no youth etc etc.

    But excuses aside, this team being under .500 is ridiculous. Even if they make the 8th seed it's beyond embarrassing I have no idea how things will play out, and time usually heals everything. But Jim Buss in 2 years has managed to completely destroy everything his father worked for. This is the equivalent of the Spurs owner switching and them firing everything that has to do with Greg Popovich. Why would you do that? If there was a formula that worked, why would you destroy it and want to do it 'your way'? Jim Buss and at the moment these Lakers deserve this failure.
    Almost like someone did the Inception on Jimmy boy.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •