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Splitman4evah is a re ed, half-aborted got. Findog could be tripping LSD while typing out his basketball takes on an old school Motorola Razr and he'd still on you. Quit gaying up the thread
So when an NBA team takes a 19-year-old One and Done over a more polished 22-year-old, and he doesn't crack a rotation his rookie year, he's a bust? Robinson wasn't a One and Done but he was seen as raw and a project.
You explicitly stated that Robinson was a bust because he was traded:
"The #5 pick, drafted ahead of Lillard, has already been traded for fuggin scraps! By far the biggest bust so far"
But nobody saw the trade as the Kings giving up on Robinson because he's considered a bust.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...xchange-part-1
Simmons (6:30 a.m.): All right, I'm up, I'm drinking coffee, I'm ready to go. What did you think of Houston fleecing Sacramento for Thomas Robinson?1 Why do teams continue to trade with Dork Elvis? Everyone, STOP TRADING WITH DORK ELVIS!!!!!
Lowe: That was a shocker. The highest-value player here is obviously Robinson (the fifth overall pick just eight months ago), whom lots of scouts love despite his rudimentary offensive skills; he's shooting 42 percent and has zero post game, though he is shooting a nearly acceptable 38 percent on midrange jumpers, per NBA.com. Keith Smart was very optimistic about Robinson's midrange jumper when I spoke to him in Dallas just before the All-Star break.
Simmons: You left out, "Oh, and he's a 21-year-old rookie getting spotty minutes for the most depressing franchise in the league … maybe that affected his jumper, too."
Lowe: In any case: Robinson's a "wow" athlete, and he's already a better rebounder than Patterson ever will be; Patterson rebounds more like a small forward than a power forward, and he's the only player of any long-term relevance going to Sacramento here. The Kings do save about $3.6 million in salary for this season, so hooray for that! Cost-cutting may well have been a motive during an awkward period for the franchise, and if it was, well, have fun digesting that one, Sacto fans. Of course, Patterson is a year away from the expiration of his rookie deal, after which point he'll become more expensive. Robinson has three years left on his rookie deal. Math is fun.
Simmons: There were so many appalling things about that trade, but you just hit on the big one — the Kings gave up on a top-five lottery pick to save a little less than $4 million. It's the kind of trade that happens when your owners are broke. It's the kind of trade that would have happened in 1978, back when the league was struggling and they were showing Finals games on tape delay. You know I'm prone to hyperbole from time to time, but I truly believe this — that's the worst trade anyone's made in years. A lottery team giving up Robinson … I mean … it's unconscionable. No, he wasn't playing that well for the Kings, but can you think of a worse situation for him?
As I've written before, the Kings were put together like The Pickup Team From . Before this trade, they had a playing rotation that included four point guards and four power forwards. That's not a misprint. Robinson was getting scattered minutes off the bench behind Boogie Cousins and Jason Thompson. And they're owned by a bunch of broke brothers who are trying to sell out to Seattle and inadvertently (or maybe even advertently) turned their season into a total soap opera. Other than that, it was a fantastic situation for Thomas Robinson. I'm amazed he didn't thrive there.
Lowe: Agree that Robinson had the highest value in the trade because of his athleticism/upside, and because he represents another immediately movable high-value trade chip for Daryl Morey — a lottery pick, basically. The Rockets can deal Robinson right away if they want to make a deadline play for Josh Smith or another big-money guy, since this deal leaves Houston under the salary cap and thus safe from rules against trading a player right after getting him. Houston may choose to wait until the summer for any such chase, since they'll have max-level cap room. These two deals combined shave about $1.6 million from Houston's 2013-14 cap figure, meaning they should be able to carve out about $20 million in space in July with a bit of creativity — enough to fit Dwight Howard's max contract, and certainly Smith's. They could also use Robinson as a sign-and-trade chip.
http://www.businessinsider.com/kings...rockets-2013-2
Last night the Sacramento Kings pulled the trigger on the most inexplicable NBA trade of the year — sending Thomas Robinson to the Houston Rockets for role players just 55 games after taking him with the #5 pick in the 2012 Draft.
The full trade:
Houston gets: Thomas Robinson, Francisco Garcia, Tyler Honeycutt
Sacramento gets: Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas
According to Grantland's Zach Lowe, the NBA world can't believe the Kings gave up on Robinson so soon. He reported on Twitter, "Also for the record: Folks around the league seem largely aghast/shocked/confused by what Kings did here."
The Kings are rebuilding and need young potential game-changers like Robinson more than low-ceiling role players like Patterson.
So all indications are that this deal had nothing to do with basketball, and was a straight-up financial move by the Kings' owners, the Maloofs — who are planning to sell the team to a Seattle-based group before next season.
The three players Sacramento traded are getting paid a combined $10.2 million this season. The three players they took back are getting paid $6.5 million.
Since roughly two thirds of that money has already been paid, this trade will save the Maloofs ~$1.2 million when all is said and done.
So, to put it crudely, it appears that the Kings' owners sacrificed a key piece of the team's basketball future so that they could save $1.2 million in their dying months as NBA owners.
The trade makes no sense from a basketball standpoint. It makes the saddest kind of sense from a business standpoint.
If you want to make the case that Robinson is a disappointing bust so far, you're going to have to do better than the fact he was traded in a pathetic cost-cutting move by the worst-run franchise in the league.
Splitman4evah is a re ed, half-aborted got. Findog could be tripping LSD while typing out his basketball takes on an old school Motorola Razr and he'd still on you. Quit gaying up the thread
Without looking at the stats, I will say Rivers.
What about Royce White?
As far as the Kings are concerned, Jimmer Fredette needs his freedom.
Its already been said but has to be Rivers easily. Nothing about him says lottery pick much less NBA player.
Huh?
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Sons, my Suns would like to have a word about their draft pick, Kendall Marshall. 2.2 PPG, 1.8 APG, 5.34 PER in 11.5 minutes. Ouch.
You said Robinson is a bust and tried to justify it by pointing out that he was traded, implying that the Kings had given up on him. But that's absolutely not the case at all. Not one single coach, scout, player or front office executive agrees with you. You need to learn to back up your claims with actual cogent points instead of making disenguous claims. If you want to say he's a bust because he couldn't crack the rotation that's a different argument. But that's not what you said. You used the trade to backup your claims when in fact it was a salary dump by miserly owners.
Miličič won a le tbhtrue story, Milicic on par with KG and Lebron with that ring!
If we talking 'so far' as its been pointed out, then no way T-Rob. He straight into Rocket high rotation and playing reasonably well.
Wasn't Rivers having statistically the worst season ever by an NBA player at one point though?Darko milicic and Kwame Brown say hi
Kendall Marshall should certainly be in the discussion, he doesn't belong in the NBA and I said as much at the time.
Was he really? shiiiit, you know you suck when the only reason you were drafted is because your dad is a coachWasn't Rivers having statistically the worst season ever by an NBA player at one point though?
Doc on draft night: "So...uh.. how 'bout my son austin huh? No developed skill set.. leaving college early.. but his dads a mother ing coach!!!"
As long as Hasheem Thabeet exist, he's only fighting for 2nd place.
guess it's still gonna take some more time before the whole league realizes what a ty player he is, then boston will be the only NBA team where he'll continue to get some playing time imho
This psycho dude from Rockets is even bigger bust
To be fair, that's exactly how Avery Bradley looked his rookie year when he was on the court.
Ah, yes. I always forget about Thabeet... because why the wouldnt I?
There's also a special place in the history books for this joker:
Do we really consider Morrison a huge bust or someone everyone but MJ knew would suck
maybe not everyoneDo we really consider Morrison a huge bust or someone everyone but MJ knew would suck
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/adam-morrison
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10/10 grade on "Intangibles"
10/10 grade on "Leadership"
9/10 grade on "NBA Ready"
9/10 grade on "Potential"
9/10 grade on "Jump Shot"
When it comes to drafting, that's about as "Can't Miss" as it gets.
anyway, the first season is for this type of discussions way to soon, but considering draft position, hype, team needs and playing time, i have to say rivers. He doesn't look a bad player, he just isn't an nba player.. he's stroke is shaky at best, he is too slow and unathletic other than not tall enough for the 2, he's handles are way to bad to be a pg which pretty much means he's not a prospect at any position neither offensive or defensive.. t-rob was a bust for the kings, he was supposed to be the most nba-ready but he's not even close tbh.. marshall was a bad pick considering they signed dragič later, but actually showed a decent shot, so that's better than described at the time.. the rockets draft picks all underachived..
Darko milicic and Kwame Brown say hi
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