That's the trick right there OV. The ref has to call it an unnatural move and then call the offensive foul. But he doesn't see it that way. It's subject to interpretation and again, players like Ginobili, Dwyane Wade, and Kobe Bryant will point that knee for a second.
Even on a step back, that knee can be used to fend off defenders. The refs have to call it, but much of the time, they do not. So in essence, it's being allowed.
Yah i wouldn't like that being called an offensive. He may have meant it but when you're driving its natural movement even if its off one step.
similar to how they wanted Manu's and1 on the three called offensive cause he kicked his leg out. Depending on the shooting action , it can be a natural movement to extend out one leg further than the other
He created separation with his knee.
The knee could have landed in a number of spots.
Reference Bobby Dandridge, the master of the fine art.
Manu got hit across the arms on the three. The refs could have called him on sticking the leg out even though he was legitimately fouled.
Typically when you lead with your knee it's an offensive foul. Interestingly this went against Tiago. Not exactly the best officiating.
Bobby D was a beast in Milwaukee. There were a few season I remember where he averaged 20 points while shooting over 50% from the field and 80% from the FT line.
But yeah, it's not a black and white call. It has to be interpreted as a non-basketball move. That did not happen on Nazr to Tiago. Nazr got a trip to the FT line.
But, I will say that Patty Mills thinks it's a clear out. You can see him demonstrate the knee in the .gif up there.
When you jump off one leg, the knee on your other leg has to go somewhere, right? A buncha pansies on this thread who never played basketball in their life. Give it a rest.
So every time a player goes up on one leg they knee the defender? I've played plenty of bball and never kneed anybody unintentionally in the groin.. You can tell when it's an accident, this does not appear to be an accident. Really though, this is a stupid thread and it's a non-issue.
Again after contact the knee only stays forward like that if you flex your quad. When youre running you have to keep the knee up to a certain point to stride. That varies according to your gait. Your leg has to come up to extend out for the next step.
After you jump there is no other stride necessary so additional movement of the off leg is gratuitous. There is no leverage in the air so its not like torquing your body during a pull up. Your just kneeing someone.
Was the knee to the groin why Tiago couldn't jump for on that last dunk attempt?
I'm pretty sure D. Wade did it in the Eastern Conference Finals last year and he got a flagrant...
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