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    Remember James O’Keefe?

    That would be the same James O’Keefe who brought down community organizing and voter registration organization ACORN in his march to becoming a conservative icon for his alleged ‘good works’.

    Matthew Phelan and Liz Farkas over at Wonkette have broken the story about the first bit of blowback resulting from O’Keefe’s brand of ‘journalism’.

    It seems that the master of the cleverly edited—if highly deceptive—video reel is now being required to pay the sum of $100,000 to Juan Carlos Vera, a one time California employee of ACORN. Mr. Vera had been portrayed by O’Keefe as being a willing participant when O’Keefe and his accomplice, Hanna Giles, proposed smuggling young women into the United States to work as pros utes.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...e-media-yawns/

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    I wish someone would do the same to people like Michael Moore.

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    now go after biggovernment.com and Faux News

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    now go after biggovernment.com and Faux News
    The difference is that it isn't illegal to slander public officials. This was a private individual. I would like to see slander illegal in such cases as well.

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    O'Keefe presented a totally fabricated scenario using highly edited video and Faux News ran with it because it fit their agenda...there was complicity by the wing-nut media for not doing their research and being partisan hacks..

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    O'Keefe presented a totally fabricated scenario using highly edited video and Faux News ran with it because it fit their agenda...there was complicity by the wing-nut media for not doing their research and being partisan hacks..
    Just like CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc. all run with leftist material.

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    The difference is that it isn't illegal to slander public officials. This was a private individual. I would like to see slander illegal in such cases as well.
    You would like the UK. Libel/slander is much easier to prove there.

    , in the EU you can be fined for slandering a product. Just ask the guy who called Beaujolais Nouveau wine.

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    I wish someone would do the same to people like Michael Moore.
    Really?

    While Mr. Vera had no idea he was being surrep iously video taped—which is not surprising given that California law expressly bars the secret recording of one’s voice or image—there was also something Mr. O’Keefe did not know until after he released the damaging video of his conversation with Vera for broadcast.

    As soon as O’Keefe and his partner-in-crime left the ACORN location, Mr. Vera called the police to report the entire incident. It turns out that Vera had been playing along with O’Keefe in an effort to ensnare O’Keefe and Giles whom Vera believed were in the act of breaking the law by proposing to engage in the importing of young women to become pros utes.

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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...e-media-yawns/

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    O'Keefe presented a totally fabricated scenario using highly edited video and Faux News ran with it because it fit their agenda...there was complicity by the wing-nut media for not doing their research and being partisan hacks..
    Troof.

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    If Obama is a Socialist. Foxnews, Boehner, McConnell, and Limbaugh are Fascists.

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    Not to the extent these losers at fox go to. Yesterday they had a sister of someone killed by an illegal in a car accident. They were "presumably" let go. She was actually reading her politically written statement like a women being held hostage. They wrote the entire interview for her. They are truly pathetic.

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    If Obama is a Socialist. Foxnews, Boehner, McConnell, and Limbaugh are Fascists.
    That makes no sense.

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    That makes no sense.
    Does anything he says make sense?

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    That makes no sense.
    It makes perfect sense -- it just happens to be a non sequitur, as far as I can tell.

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    It makes perfect sense -- it just happens to be a non sequitur, as far as I can tell.
    No it makes absolutely no sense. Furthermore it's a merit less comment, unless there is more to it. Glad you're starting to see what logical fallacies are though

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    Does anything he says make sense?
    I don't really see his posts enough.

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    No it makes absolutely no sense. Furthermore it's a merit less comment, unless there is more to it. Glad you're starting to see what logical fallacies are though
    That's rich, Captain Rand.

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    Think about it. Do some research. Go to the library. Read about Coorportism. Read about British socialism. You'll understand. Then you'll say to yourself those ing republicans have been duping me all this time. I must be some kinda Hilter youth dumb ass.

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    Think about it. Do some research. Go to the library. Read about Coorportism. Read about British socialism. You'll understand. Then you'll say to yourself those ing republicans have been duping me all this time. I must be some kinda Hilter youth dumb ass.
    Doubt it. Thanks for the tip that I should do your research on your idea. I think both parties could be labeled corporatists. As far as Fascists, I don't see how you could label a News program, a senate minorities leader and a house majority leader as fascists. Then argue how BHO wouldn't fit in that definition.

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    Doubt it. Thanks for the tip that I should do your research on your idea. I think both parties could be labeled corporatists. As far as Fascists, I don't see how you could label a News program, a senate minorities leader and a house majority leader as fascists. Then argue how BHO wouldn't fit in that definition.
    His whole point was that if the hyperbolic label of Socialist could be applied to Obama, the hyperbolic label of Fascist could be applied to any number of Republican figureheads. It's not clear to me why he said it, but it seemed more of a criticism of partisan spin (like O'Keefe's, presumably) than anything else. Your natural curiosity to understand your interlocutors positions is inspiring, though -- jolly good show, chap!

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    Remember James O’Keefe?

    That would be the same James O’Keefe who brought down community organizing and voter registration organization ACORN in his march to becoming a conservative icon for his alleged ‘good works’.

    Matthew Phelan and Liz Farkas over at Wonkette have broken the story about the first bit of blowback resulting from O’Keefe’s brand of ‘journalism’.

    It seems that the master of the cleverly edited—if highly deceptive—video reel is now being required to pay the sum of $100,000 to Juan Carlos Vera, a one time California employee of ACORN. Mr. Vera had been portrayed by O’Keefe as being a willing participant when O’Keefe and his accomplice, Hanna Giles, proposed smuggling young women into the United States to work as pros utes.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...e-media-yawns/

    Holy crap, I hadn't really paid any attention to this after the very initial breaking of the story. What a load of bull , especially that this got immunity. I hope he gets sued into oblivion since this seemed to be the catalyst that brought acorn down. He ruined the jobs and lives of many for his own twisted personal amusement.

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    Holy crap, I hadn't really paid any attention to this after the very initial breaking of the story. What a load of bull , especially that this got immunity. I hope he gets sued into oblivion since this seemed to be the catalyst that brought acorn down. He ruined the jobs and lives of many for his own twisted personal amusement.
    I see...

    One wronged employee makes all the guilty ones, not guilty?

    What type of logic is that?

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    I see...

    One wronged employee makes all the guilty ones, not guilty?

    What type of logic is that?
    Of what crimes were the others guilty, WC?

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    Faux News? This isn't 2008 anymore. Get some new material.

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    I see...

    One wronged employee makes all the guilty ones, not guilty?

    What type of logic is that?
    Of what crimes were the others guilty, WC?
    Pretty much this.

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