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F for every non-sop re on the team, tbh.
In other words Kawhi and Cory were the only halfway competent players again.
Tim Duncan B-
His per-minute production statistically was great. Can’t complain much about his scoring and rebounding. However, he was poor on D -- individually and team-wise – and his O was too often sloppy.
Manu Ginobili C-
His shot was off from three but he did well going to the hoop. He had some good passes but they were more than negated by turnovers. On D, he was terrible. No juice and was caught out of position constantly.
Kawhi Leonard A-
Really can’t muster much to complain about. Very aggressive on O with mostly positive results. Good effort on the boards. D was actually really good. He was definitely the bright spot on this gloomy night.
Danny Green B-
His D was respectable until late when he was roasted by Lillard -- but that was tall task. On O, he was decent. Limited mistakes, good shot selection, played at a sustainable pace and didn’t try to do too much.
Cory Joseph B
This loss can’t be blamed too much on him. The Spurs only looked competent defensively against Lillard when he was the defender. He was helpful on O with quality court vision and enough scoring.
Tiago Splitter C+
His D was tepid. He rebounding was weak. His offense was good; he scored well, passed well and excelled in pick-and-rolls. But he needed to be more well-rounded in this game.
Stephen Jackson B-
Painfully slow at times but his level of play didn’t suffer too much. D was decent -- but listless. His O featured smart passes and a lack of mistakes. Overall, he wasn't bad but the Spurs could have used a spark.
Patrick Mills C
I don’t have a problem with his offense. In fact, he was quite effective. My problem was his defense, or lack thereof. He was horrendous when attempting to maneuver around screens. It was ugly to watch.
Boris Diaw C+
His offense was okay. His had adequate aggression, found open teammates and was reasonably sharp. His individual D was good enough but his help-defense was weak and his rebounding was non-existent.
Matt Bonner C-
Another player who did well on offense: He was decisive and hit a couple difficult shots. Another player who did bad on defense: poor in every aspect on that end … including rebounding.
DeJuan Blair C+
Rebounded well. Did fine on offense. Hideous on defense.
Gary Neal Inc.
Didn’t waste time in firing up a couple attempts in garbage time. His ugly jumper soon told the story of why he’s relegated to garbage time right now.
Nando De Colo Inc.
In hindsight, could he have been able to do something against Lillard? Maybe. But, eh, probably not. That rook was blazin’.
Pop C-
‘Twas a deadly combo of too many Spurs being flaccid on D and Portland playing out of their minds on O. Pop didn’t help matters with his coaching. Instead, bizarre lineups helped cause the historic meltdown.
Last edited by timvp; 03-09-2013 at 01:07 PM.
F for every non-sop re on the team, tbh.
In other words Kawhi and Cory were the only halfway competent players again.
timvp with d bads. Everyone should have got no more than a d minus
shh, timvp still thinks this team can win a playoff game.
A playoff game sure
A playoff series? Ok
A playoff series vs a hot team?
Pop deserves a D. Continuing with Bonner, Diaw, Manu , Sjax and Patty to start the 4th defensively was a crazy line-up. The Spurs still had chance of winning the game but staying with that line-up sealed the deal for the blazers. Slow footed , not much physcality and too much ball watching.
over-all Spurs defense was really bad . Too many good looks on the perimeter for the Blazers and off the dribble Spur couldn't keep up. Blazers got way too much room to operate.
Why would they need to depend on a backup pg? And why can't you depend on him at all? He's still playing well. Same with Green.A playoff game sure
A playoff series? Ok
A playoff series vs a hot team?
Pop, Bonner and Diaw all deserve a D/F
Burn the tape. Move on.
A team built like d spurs unfortunately gotta depend on all players including tiago, diaw, green and the backup pg.
It's a wakeup call. Spurs were feeling confident and they just got embarassed by a non-playoff team. Good loss to an athletic team because that's our weakness, and that it's not even close makes it an eye-opener. Now the coaching staff can go back to the drawing board and address that. I hope CIA Pops play this tape every night to focus the team that they need to bring their A-game every night. They need to bring some nasty. I want to see SJ start pushing people. And please use Baynes' fouls to punish layups. Eventually we need him to push Perkins and boxout Ibaka. Why not play him now? I like CoJo getting his beak wet. We need his defense against athletic guards in the 2nd unit. i.e. Bledsoe. Anyways, I don't want to see them lose, but it's a necessary butt-kicking and to an athletic team at that. In retrospect, it might be an A++ for CIA Pops to prepare the team. Go Spurs Go!
Second regulation loss over a 25 game stretch. 20 wins, 3OT losses, 2 losses in regulation(Detroit and this)
Meh, it was obviously an ugly loss but it's difficult to blame any one player. A lack of effort on D was a team-wide problem and unfortunately it was exploited by the Blazers.
Winning without TP isn't easy -- regardless of what we saw thus far. Parker is the ultimate easy-button; when things aren't going right, he'll take over (offensively and defensively, tbh) and guide the team to victory. Without him, it takes everyone else playing in unison to get it done. But the problem is that if the team isn't on the same page, they quickly become vulnerable ... as we saw vs. Portland.
Ugly loss but a loss that saw the blame spread pretty evenly around the team. It is odd that the Spurs got beat that viciously yet no player was undeniable horrible.
Manu played like .
Was the D really that bad? or were they just too hot? The blazers shot 60% from 3s, 60% overall FG percentage
They scored 136 points but the spurs totally stopped trying in garbage time where the blazers got a lot of uncontested layups, they were stunned like everyone else. Lillard was incredible, I was surprised Leonard/Green didnt defend him more. Manu got beat by lillard every time they were matched up and Mills also did a poor job.
Portland shot the lights out but most of their 3 pt shots were wide open, I dunno...
Roasted would be getting left flat footed, and yeah I guess that too. Danny would leave Lillard to help on the inside and that's just not bothering to play defense. Maybe he was tired, who knows.
This was a rotational experiment from Pop that blew up in his face. It can be fun to watch an experiment go wrong as long as you're not too close to the components and more importantly, nobody gets hurt. it's a good one to move on from.
I have trouble with the logic inherent in acknowledging that the the team got the worst beating of the Tim Duncan era, 'yet no player was undeniable (sic) horrible'.
Arguably, every player was undeniably horrible.
Yes, this game made Tony's importance to the team more obvious, but it doesn't follow that 'even with Tony' the loss might have happened because Portland was playing so well.
A loss is one thing; losing this badly to a non-playoff team that had lost in overtime the night before is inexcusable. It is the size of the loss that is inexcusable, not the loss itself.
Tim's defense was virtually non-existent, and Manu's play exposes him as little more than a 'sometimes great' role player, much like Neal or Mason. Those players could occasionally have great games, too. But they couldn't do it consistently. And that is what last night showed all of us. Tim and Manu can have occasional flashbacks to greatness, but they can no longer perform at a consistently high level. That should inform our expectations about the post season if the opposition can shut down Parker.
Any player can be taken out of the equation if teams focus on him enough (ok - maybe not Lebron, but still). But when that happens, the rest of the team should be able to be freed up by that one player commanding so much attention that they can go off. Last year's playoffs showed that the rest of our team couldn't pull us through, and last night is evidence that the same will happen again this year.
Losing by thirty after trailing by only eight after three quarters is taking a special kind of ass whipping. I thought the Spurs had enough perimeter defense, Danny Green and Cory Joseph, to cover Lillard. Pop didn't keep Joseph in the game and opted for Green on Lillard. As where Joseph did a nice enough job on Lillard, Green blew the assignment in the fourth quarter. Maybe that was Pop's experiment in this game, and Green exploded the beaker. Time to wipe off the counter top and get ready for the next experiment.
Manu was pretty bad. His defense was atrocious.
The one game of the year blacked out on NBA TV for Seattle. Sounds like I missed seeing a lot bad defensive plays and the Spurs showed they missed Parker. I hope this gives CJ a chance in crunch time for the next game.
What grade would you give to Damian Lillard?
H for hopefully he blows out his knee falling into aldrige who, in turn, blows out his knee
TD/Splitter/CoJo grades are too low.
Diaw/Bonner/Blair/Mills/Pop too high
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