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    Yeah he was really shooting for the Dem who tried to filibuster the civil rights act...
    I don't think you would ever vote repub and if you did, I wouldn't be voting for repubs anymore so I can see how you don't see that this is the spark the Conservatives were looking for.

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    The Tea Party is not a formalized party, therefor it cannot be killed.

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    Condi's too smart to apply for the job.
    We'll see.

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    It seems to be a foregone conclusion that Clinton and O'Malley will run, but I expect Cuomo to try, and would be excited to see Warren make a showing (although she may need to spend more time in office proving herself/winning voters than she has time to by 2016). My guess is a Clinton/Cuomo, Clinton/Warner, or Clinton/Patrick (Deval Patrick, that is) ticket.

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    Only one mention of the current veep? That's a pretty sad statement for our current situation tbh.

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    Only one mention of the current veep? That's a pretty sad statement for our current situation tbh.
    Outside of Al Gore, how many VPs run for President after two terms? They're mostly part of the lame-duck presidency at that point.

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    Outside of Al Gore, how many VPs run for President after two terms? They're mostly part of the lame-duck presidency at that point.
    Bush 41 was a two-term veep IIRC

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    Bush 41 was a two-term veep IIRC
    Yeah, I can't think if many more. It's normally the continuing of fairly popular administrations. I don't think neither of the last two administrations fit that bill.

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    Yeah, I can't think if many more. It's normally the continuing of fairly popular administrations. I don't think neither of the last two administrations fit that bill.
    Fair point. The difference with the last administration is that Joe actually desires the position. Losing when you have the experience of being #2 would be a pretty strong indictment of the person (and the administration?) imo tbqh.

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    Fair point. The difference with the last administration is that Joe actually desires the position. Losing when you have the experience of being #2 would be a pretty strong indictment of the person (and the administration?) imo tbqh.
    quote? Haven't heard him talk about that, tbh... might easily be wrong.

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    quote? Haven't heard him talk about that, tbh... might easily be wrong.
    Nothing direct, although I thought him spearheading the not-so-grand bargain to avoid the fiscal cliff was a transparent "feather-in-the-cap" move for 2016.

    Take it for what it's worth, but I did a quick Google search and found this Politico article that says he's intoxicated (their word) with the idea of a 2016 bid.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ves-86600.html

    Again, there's no direct quote so I guess only time will tell if he decides to run.

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    Nothing direct, although I thought him spearheading the not-so-grand bargain to avoid the fiscal cliff was a transparent "feather-in-the-cap" move for 2016.

    Take it for what it's worth, but I did a quick Google search and found this Politico article that says he's intoxicated (their word) with the idea of a 2016 bid.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ves-86600.html

    Again, there's no direct quote so I guess only time will tell if he decides to run.
    thanks

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    Do you think Ike was a ty president because Nixon was his VP for eight years?

    If Clinton runs, that's basically it. Benghazi didn't stick the way Republicans wanted. It's early but I can't see them fielding an opponent who could beat her. Condi Rice would be the knee-jerk affirmative action response, but she would have her own history to deal with .

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    Do you think Ike was a ty president because Nixon was his VP for eight years?

    If Clinton runs, that's basically it. Benghazi didn't stick the way Republicans wanted. It's early but I can't see them fielding an opponent who could beat her. Condi Rice would be the knee-jerk affirmative action response, but she would have her own history to deal with .
    Condi? Seriously?

    The GOP's only chance in Chris Christie and he would have a difficult time beating Clinton in the general, of course, that won't happen because of Rand and other former tea baggers growing influence in the GOP

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    Condi? Seriously?

    The GOP's only chance in Chris Christie and he would have a difficult time beating Clinton in the general, of course, that won't happen because of Rand and other former tea baggers growing influence in the GOP
    Please no more libs giving advice on who's the best candidate... And Condi would be a qreat president!

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    Please no more libs giving advice on who's the best candidate... And Condi would be a qreat president!
    'Libs' have a pretty good prediction record....I myself was saying it would be Romney for at least 2 years....conservatives on the other hand, thought it was Clinton in 2008, I told ya it was not..

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    Please no more libs giving advice on who's the best candidate... And Condi would be a qreat president!
    Yes she would, and not for affirmative/quota type reasons. Other blacks would call her a sellout.

    Thing is, I think she's too smart to apply for the job.

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    Yes she would, and not for affirmative/quota type reasons. Other blacks would call her a sellout.

    Thing is, I think she's too smart to apply for the job.
    Eh, she was on of the main reasons the Bush administration whiffed so badly RE: Al Qaeda. Kind of unforgivable in my book.

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    Eh, she was on of the main reasons the Bush administration whiffed so badly RE: Al Qaeda. Kind of unforgivable in my book.
    This is it and this is all:


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    OK, I have to ask. Why the Chinese setting in your signature?

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    Kerry is 100x smarter then Condi.
    That's a difficult position to defend, IMO; , it was reported during the '04 election that GW had higher ap ude scores on military entrance exams than Kerry. Rice is - just look at where the two started from, and where they ended up; throw in the obstacles a black woman would have had to overcome.....really not close, at all.

    Hillary and Condi probably pretty close, however.

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    OK, I have to ask. Why the Chinese setting in your signature?
    My Kim.

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    North Korea Kim?

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