Spurs: Did Refs try to F Spurs at home vs Thunderefs?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yes and no. Lebron does what he wants to do. To me he's often a pass first player. He assists the ball much more than Durant. I see Lebron time and time again penetrate the lane, go airborne and kick out to an open 3 point shooter. Seems he'd rather do that often times. If Lebron had it in his mind he needed to shoot 10 FTs a game, he would have no problem accomplishing that.

LeBron has only about 40 less FGA than Durant, so no...

Edit : On the season :

LeBron : 1100 FGA, 414 FTA
Durant : 1145 FGA, 598 FTA

[Clipper Nation]

like OKC said, their style of play is aggressive and they constantly attack the rim.

No they don't.... they're 17th in the league in team FGA at the rim per game....

[OKC]

No they don't.... they're 17th in the league in team FGA at the rim per game....

Yeah, but when you're talking about OKC and FTs you're talkng about 2 players. Westbrook would be 4th in the league in at rim attempts and 1st among guards - a number in itself that is skewed a little because everytime he's fouled on a missed shot attempt, its not statistically attempt. Durant isn't super high, but top 30 or so. Granted, KD gets a lot his calls on the wing because defenders allow him zero space to operate whereas Westbrook they have to. Many defenders are smothering Durant and he baits them into fouls. Irritating maybe, but many are legit.

[Fabbs]

BS. Last night was a typical case of the fact that OKC just flat out is going to shoot more FT's. It's a reflection of their personnel and style of play. Got beat very soundly and still shot twice as many FT's and anyone who thinks that game wasn't called fairly is blind. THat's just the way OKC plays.

Defensively Durant stands in the paint then shuffles sideways like a twig blown in the wind. In front of driving Spurs. Tweet! Gets the bull charging call repeatedly.
Key burn call last year vs Ginobili in rigged Game 6. Gino had a beautiful 2+1 wiped out by sniffin Thunderef.

Last night setting the tone, Timmy Dunks drives across the lane and gets mugged by Ibaka and ball knocked away. Westbrick drives hard but completely set Joseph is ready. Tweet! Charging.

Don't give us the "we take it to the rack more" bull . Kobists tried that too. Nonsense.

[Thread]

Defensively Durant stands in the paint then shuffles sideways like a twig blown in the wind. In front of driving Spurs. Tweet! Gets the bull charging call repeatedly.
Key burn call last year vs Ginobili in rigged Game 6. Gino had a beautiful 2+1 wiped out by sniffin Thunderef.

Last night setting the tone, Timmy Dunks drives across the lane and gets mugged by Ibaka and ball knocked away. Westbrick drives hard but completely set Joseph is ready. Tweet! Charging.

Don't give us the "we take it to the rack more" bull . Kobists tried that too. Nonsense.

Originally Posted by OKC
one minute they're thinking of what trades they can make and how sorry everyone on the team is..the next, they're in love again and the basketball world is all theirs.

[OKC]

Defensively Durant stands in the paint then shuffles sideways like a twig blown in the wind. In front of driving Spurs. Tweet! Gets the bull charging call repeatedly.
Key burn call last year vs Ginobili in rigged Game 6. Gino had a beautiful 2+1 wiped out by sniffin Thunderef.

Last night setting the tone, Timmy Dunks drives across the lane and gets mugged by Ibaka and ball knocked away. Westbrick drives hard but completely set Joseph is ready. Tweet! Charging.

Don't give us the "we take it to the rack more" bull . Kobists tried that too. Nonsense.

Every game, every night, there's questionable calls. Get over it. You think there were no borderline calls the other way? We're talking in a broad sense here. The game was called as good as you can expect an NBA game to be called.

[Fabbs]

Ah, the broad brushed "every game has missed calls."
Thunderef awards "borderline calls" to OKC at about a 6 to 1 clip.

That is Lakerlike.

[OKC]

Ah, the broad brushed "every game has missed calls."
Thunderef awards "borderline calls" to OKC at about a 6 to 1 clip.

That is Lakerlike.

Just keep playing the victim I guess. I don't know what else to tell you. Some people see it how they want to see it. Some people try to be objective - clearly, you're not one of them.

[DAF86]

There were 3 or 4 calls in a row in favor of OKC at the beggining of the 4th that were mind-boggling.

[Slutter McGee]

Just keep playing the victim I guess. I don't know what else to tell you. Some people see it how they want to see it. Some people try to be objective - clearly, you're not one of them.

Its far easier for Spurs fans to be objective. We are not basing our opinions off this game alone, but games against other teams. Sometimes I find myself rooting for the Tunder to win. But I still recognize the disparity in both number of calls and type of calls.

I honestly think you might be an idiot.

ter McGee

[OKC]

Its far easier for Spurs fans to be objective. We are not basing our opinions off this game alone, but games against other teams. Sometimes I find myself rooting for the Tunder to win. But I still recognize the disparity in both number of calls and type of calls.

I honestly think you might be an idiot.

ter McGee

I recognize both the disparity and the sensible reason behind the disparity. You recognize the disparity without taking anything into context and then ing and moaning like some sort of victim. Again - last night. Double the FT attempts - in a loss, in a well called game. You don't think it was a well called game because you'v already convinced yourself and burned into your mind that OKC gets the benefit of every call. It's difficult to convince someone to look objectively at something when they've already made up their mind. Another stat - prior to Game 6 of the WCF last year, SA shot an equal number of FT's in head to head games against OKC over the previous 2 regular seasons.

[mercos]

OKC got a lot of touch fouls to start and finish the game. They ultimately did not matter because this was a blowout, but in a close game they could have made the difference. Unless you are the Miami Heat, you do not want to be involved in a close game with the Thunder.

[rjv]

Only pussies & assholes play the officiating card.

[td4mvp2k]

did u actually watch the game or do u just post stats and make absurd assumptions?

Ya I saw a game the refs were trying to win for the meth heads but spurs shooting was to great and got by it... No assumptions about that bytch and get your meth head out of your azz!

[Dro210]

The most telling thing I can point out about the Thunder getting calls... I love basketball, i watch it religiously, I referee part time, and 4-5 years ago the Thunder were hands down my 2nd favorite team to watch. Over the years, it's become hard to watch them, so much to the point to where now I'm just as disgusted watching them play as I used to be the Lakers. I actually think its worse, because Westbrook is a nightmare of a player. That guy makes them almost as hard to watch as the refs.

And for anybody saying I'm just mad because they beat us last year. The shift started way before that.

[OKC]

Ya I saw a game the refs were trying to win for the meth heads but spurs shooting was to great and got by it... No assumptions about that bytch and get your meth head out of your azz!

I'm sorry, your choice of words and general vocabulary doesn't lend itself to much credibility.

[OKC]

The most telling thing I can point out about the Thunder getting calls... I love basketball, i watch it religiously, I referee part time, and 4-5 years ago the Thunder were hands down my 2nd favorite team to watch. Over the years, it's become hard to watch them, so much to the point to where now I'm just as disgusted watching them play as I used to be the Lakers. I actually think its worse, because Westbrook is a nightmare of a player. That guy makes them almost as hard to watch as the refs.

And for anybody saying I'm just mad because they beat us last year. The shift started way before that.

Westbrook is a nightmare in what sense? Honestly, between KD and RW, I'm far more apt to agree KD getting the ticky tack fouls over Westbrook. Agree? I mean the majority of Westbrooks fouls are when he's in penetration mode and let's be honest - he's about as unstoppable a guy as there in that respect - making it very reasonable to assume he does get fouled quite a bit.

[Dro210]

Westbrook is a nightmare in what sense? Honestly, between KD and RW, I'm far more apt to agree KD getting the ticky tack fouls over Westbrook. Agree? I mean the majority of Westbrooks fouls are when he's in penetration mode and let's be honest - he's about as unstoppable a guy as there in that respect - making it very reasonable to assume he does get fouled quite a bit.

Oh yea completely agree with the fact KD gets more calls like that. I'm just referring to Westbrooks style of play. It's out of control and unintelligent the majority of the time. And he plays off emotion in the wrong way. I cringe when you know somebody just got him and he feels he's gotta get one back, so he beats 3 of his teammates down the floor and throws up a pull up 18footer off the back of the rim with 19 on the shot clock. Couldn't play on a team with that guy, even if he is extremely talented.

[td4mvp2k]

I'm sorry, your choice of words and general vocabulary doesn't lend itself to much credibility.

gtfo pus

[ambchang]

I recognize both the disparity and the sensible reason behind the disparity. You recognize the disparity without taking anything into context and then ing and moaning like some sort of victim. Again - last night. Double the FT attempts - in a loss, in a well called game. You don't think it was a well called game because you'v already convinced yourself and burned into your mind that OKC gets the benefit of every call. It's difficult to convince someone to look objectively at something when they've already made up their mind. Another stat - prior to Game 6 of the WCF last year, SA shot an equal number of FT's in head to head games against OKC over the previous 2 regular seasons.

So given their style of play, why didn't OKC get more calls the 2 previous regular season? Don't OKC play the same style?

Are you insinuating that the refs were calling in favour of the Spurs and against the Thunder?

[KL2]

Some fouls were legit however most were BS, in the 4th. The amount of moving screens okc was getting out of hand, the durant charge when he was still moving, westbrook not being called for traveling lead to a layup, diaw being called for over the back when he was in front of ibaka lmao, manu knocking it off westbrook's leg out of bounds equals thunder ball etc. those are just off the top of my head.

Okc would be a pretty average team without the reffing they get.

[blizz]

Some fouls were legit however most were BS, in the 4th. The amount of moving screens okc was getting out of hand, the durant charge when he was still moving, westbrook not being called for traveling lead to a layup, diaw being called for over the back when he was in front of ibaka lmao, manu knocking it off westbrook's leg out of bounds equals thunder ball etc. those are just off the top of my head.

Okc would be a pretty average team without the reffing they get.

Don't forget when Kawhi got called for "thinking" about fouling KD at the three pt line in the 4th.

[ElNono]

Heard this one on the telecast last night...

Durant and Westbrook *alone* have more freethrow attempts than 11 *complete* NBA teams. That's almost half the teams in the league.

You can spin it with the "aggressive style" and what not, but the reality ends up being that most teams are not allowed to guard those guys without getting a foul called on them.

[OKC]

Some fouls were legit however most were BS, in the 4th. The amount of moving screens okc was getting out of hand, the durant charge when he was still moving, westbrook not being called for traveling lead to a layup, diaw being called for over the back when he was in front of ibaka lmao, manu knocking it off westbrook's leg out of bounds equals thunder ball etc. those are just off the top of my head.

Okc would be a pretty average team without the reffing they get.

Average team without reffing? Dude...really? You lost credibility with that statement.

[ElNono]

Also, didn't the league change the rules on those "flail-your-arms-for-a-fake-shot-attempt-foul" that Durant did every other possession and changed them to non-shooting-fouls? Whatever happened with that? Last night they kept sending Kevin to the line when he pulled those off.