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Tonights game is a clear indication that we exhuded a lot of energy last night against OKC, it's a trap game. Manu has his moments and he can still lead off the bench but some of his choices need to be reeled in by playoff time.
he did a solid job the past 2 years but he also played with Tiago and had Bonners floor spacing
without a stretch 4 he cant get in the lane and he throws skip passes 90% of the time which get read most of the time
needs to be used as a role player now
Popovich will have to have one of Parker/Splitter on the floor at all times now
Tonights game is a clear indication that we exhuded a lot of energy last night against OKC, it's a trap game. Manu has his moments and he can still lead off the bench but some of his choices need to be reeled in by playoff time.
he's done. anyone who thinks otherwise needs to make an appt with a team of psychologists.
yes he will have a nice streak every now and then. but Pop please stop relying on this turnover machine.
If we were to analogize Ginobili as a car, I'd say that he's not run down yet, but he is broken. He still has some basketball left physically, but I'm not sure he has it in him to dial down and play within his limits. He's not aging gracefully, and I don't think he'd make a good non-star, now that he's not an energy player.
He has flashes now and again and he's a better option then going with Neal. Once TP comes back he'll reign it in.
He's been up and down all year. I wonder what kind of contract offer he gets. Does he get a big contract to make up for years of giving the Spurs a discount? They won't get the value if they pay him big 3 money.
Exactly what ElNono said, when nobody hits a shot you can't win.
He'll get 5 mil a season for 2 more seasons.
He'll get less than Tim, which is where he should be at this point in time...
I think this is further evidence that his role as a leader of the 2nd unit needs to change. He really has to pick his spots when driving, he cant just make up stuff on a consistent basis anymore while going to the hoop. I still trust him as a distributor when he is not trying to do too much. And he can still hit the open 3. The step back is gone.
bottom line: We still gotta have him. But this season has to teach him about his limitations. Each year his stride gets shorter and his agility declines. He can age gracefully and productively once he realizes this.
I'd also note as bad as he's played, he still can create his own shot and shots for others. Not a lot of guys can do it on this team. He's still valuable, if inconsistent.
Also, it's a team game. All the guys played bad. Including up and coming Tiago Splitter who destroyed Ibacka and then got killed by Sistema.
I think the point wasn't that he was the reason for the loss, but that he didn't look like a difference maker on the floor. He just wasn't good enough to rally the Spurs in the least.
All depends on playoff minutes/health/performance. Regular season doesn't mean that much when you've got a top 2 seed on lockdown.
ElNono, I heard Johns Hopkins is paying money for volunteers for a new study. the subject is "the human brain and extreme stages of delusion"
give them a call
I feel sorry for him given that he competes so fully. He gives everything he has physically and he just is not the same man. Its hard getting old. Basketball is THE sport to tell you things are not the same physically. The great humbler this game.
But he can still go one on five to end a quarter (he just can't carry a depleted squad on a back-to-back on the road).
Nobody was a difference maker tonight, big hangover loss on this b2b especially after winning against OKC. He'll be fine, he'll reign it in when Parker is back. He's trying to do way too much and is out of control when trying to lead everyone.
ive been saying Ginobili's been trash the entire season
this game was so bad it was worthy of making a thread about it
spurfan can play the non issue, one game, hes tired hes been playing 20 minutes with timeouts and halftimes every other day excuses but you deep down no he just isnt the same player anymore
at 36 it is to be expected
i should probably add Leonard should be with the bench more as well with offense run through him
and not through the other TOSB Jackson who manages to ruin his one good game of the year by complaining about every single call
cant believe the pussy refs havent given him a tech yet
also add that since Tiago has gone to the starting lineup the bench as gone downhill fast
spurs had the leading bench in the nba ppg wise at one point now theyre sitting at around 6-7th and its getting worse every game
If anything, this game is further proof we need Manu and Tiago to play well, because the vaunted 'depth' is non-existent...
watch Timvp give him a C
Did I post anything not factual?
I haven't even said Manu played great or anything....
Very nice point as well.
The Spurs can win with Ginobili, and they might be able to win without him, but they can't win despite him. As I said in the game thread, when Ginobili is playing poorly, he's like a sickness that hangs over the team. He earned every point of his plus-minus tonight.
You think Manu didn't play horrible today or yesterday for startersDid I post anything not factual?
I haven't even said Manu played great or anything....
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