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When you're building a city by shooting bricks...ya get your ass kicked. GAME OVER!
Manu Ginobili D-
Played poorly in just about every aspect. D was atrocious. Didn't give effort on the boards. Couldn't shot straight or pass effectively. Simply discombobulated all night long. Dropped the ball as the alpha dog.
Tiago Splitter C-
Rebounding was great. Passing was fantastic early. Unfortunately, he couldn't make a shot, he got more sloppy as the game progressed and his D was tepid. He, too, could have stepped up -- but he didn't.
Danny Green C
His D was below average but he rebounded well and hustled back in transition. On O, he was effective early when he let the offense come to him. When he attempted to force the issue, his performance went south.
Stephen Jackson A-
One of the few bright spots. Stout defense, commendable activity and played physically. He shot it better than usual, limited his mistakes and didn't try to do too much. If anything, he needed more touches.
Cory Joseph C+
I don't think he played quite as well as his stats indicate. When the game was in doubt, he was too passive and didn't get the team into its sets swiftly enough. His D also wasn't as lively as usual.
Matt Bonner C-
He was in the starting lineup but his impact was minimal. He had some very good moments on D but balanced it out with forgettable sequences. Didn't do much of anything on offense.
Patrick Mills C
He passed the ball better than usual -- that was his definite positive. Regrettably, everything else was subpar. He seemed to miss all of his important shots. His D was really bad; he got picked off his man easily.
Boris Diaw C
I didn't like his intensity; he seemed to be going through the motions. Strangely, he was too aggressive with his shot-selection. His D was good enough but his sloppiness and inattentiveness limited his upside.
Nando De Colo B+
Quality showing. He attacked situations with more gusto than usual. He authored strong drives to the hoop, dished it well and didn't have a turnover. D could have been better but the energy was there.
DeJuan Blair C-
Was caught out of position on D too much. Couldn't rebound at all for an unknown reason. On O, he was like a chicken with its head cut off. There was no rhyme or reason to anything he did on that end.
Gary Neal D+
He was the original backup point guard but after a couple missed shots and a few possessions of looking limited (injured?) on D, Pop yanked him.
Aron Baynes Inc.
Played in garbage time but he had a pair of very impressive blocked shots. He's obviously not intimidated by NBA athletes. He also pulled down a contested board.
Pop C-
It's impossible to say whether he made the right call sitting Duncan and Leonard without knowing their true status. During the game, he pushed buttons but nothing worked -- it just seemed to make things worse.
When you're building a city by shooting bricks...ya get your ass kicked. GAME OVER!
Agree with the grades today. Thanks for the writeup.
If this was Pop's way to 'stick it to Stern' for the quick turnaround schedule, then it was an epic fail.
Like you said, it will be interesting to see what's the status, especially on Kawhi. Duncan I can understand not playing back to back despite missing Tony, but we could've used Kawhi.
Atrocious game, everybody's D was terrible to allow the Timberwolves to go off from three. Thursday against Dallas, a different team should show up so we can get 50
Don't get Pop's refusal to play Baynes until there is no doubt at all about the outcome of the game.
Kawhi supposedly had sore knee. Someone here said he has tendonitis in it.
According to McD, Spurs were resting them... granted, it's McDonald...
Completely negates the OKC win. This isn't last year's Spurs. Pop can't just throw any lineup out there and expect an automatic W. Leonard doesn't need rest. If the tendinitis is that bad, he should sit out a couple of weeks.
Popovich will take a defensive liability big man everyday of the week if he feels they can stretch the floor. Its confusing why Bonner started the game, imagine if the spurs picked up Brian Scalabrine Pop wouldn't know what to do he'd be so giddy.
the fact that Blair and Bonner arent even bench caliber players anymore should earn Baynes some minutes
his blocks were actually very impressive considering he had athletic 7 footers going hard for a dunk
even a guy like Duncan wont block those shots
just move out of the way because he isnt strong enough, doesnt want to get postered, or get him the foul call
Baynes is big and athletic enough to send them back
Tough game to assess with the big 3 out, but several F grades were deserved.
Pop should get an F for multiple reasons. 1) changing the 2nd half starters when the 1st half starters gave us a decent lead in Q1. How often does he change the starters after the half unless there are foul issues? 2) for benching Neal (unless that is injury related), Mills was atrocious 3) using the Portland debacle as motivation only to give it back 4) Allowing the mexican impersonating Manu to play in the 2nd half
Manu should get an F- for the worst game he's ever played, given the cir stances. 0 boards and 1 assist on 2/10 shooting in 22 minutes? The game was over 5 minutes after he entered the game mid-Q1. It was like watching a family member get abused, you just want it to end and not allow the perp to continue. He should have gotten the Neal treatment and not been allowed to do anymore damage than was than he did in the 1st half, but instead starts the 2nd half and continues his rape-victim play. Quite worrying.
Mills should get an F, although I guess a D- given expectations. I remember seeing this cat live in GS at the end of last year when Pop + Big 2 + Manu didn't even make the trip, and he lead us to a Coach Bud victory. He's fallen off a cliff, plays with zero confidence, and shouldn't sniff any courttime unless it's a blowout situation or there's been a terror attack injuring the rest of our guards. Exposed.
Splitter shouldn't get an F because of the effort and results on the boards, but it is unconciounable to get a "slightly below average" grade shooting 1-10 in the paint and turning it over thrice in 22 minutes. D- would be fair though, especially given the way he manhandled Porkins, Abakas mouth, Collison, and Durant on the offensive end of the floor the night before. His floor has been raised and no way he deserved a C-.
I'm not a fan of resting a 21 year old unless he's actually injured. From what I've read on Kawhi's knee it isn't something thats going to get aggravated, but its just a matter of pain tolerance, and the pain is going to be there whether or not he rests. Granted, it isn't some debilitating pain that is going to limit his game, but its there. Still, unless something further happened, he should have been out there. He's a kid.
Also, I give Pop a big ol' F on this game. I'm usually one of the Pop defenders, but if you are going to be shorthanded during a game, why on earth isn't Baynes getting minutes. I understand that in games like the OKC game or crucial moments you don't want him out there, but why did we buyout his contract and rush him over here if he isn't going to play at all. I mean, it was a meaningless game and it was out of hand early in the 3rd. Why he didn't check in at that point is beyond me.
Why is Bonner starting? Why is Blair getting these kind of minutes. Why NOT give Baynes minutes earlier and see how he responds. Holy .
Manu is too classy, he didn't want to overshadow Messi's performance tbh.
Cojo imo should get a better grade since being some kind of awesome playmaker isn't part of the expectations :
C. Joseph G 25:56 5-9 1-1 4-4 -1 0 2 2 3 2 0 3 1 2 15
Only disappointing number is the 3 TO but hey I'll take it. Imo what he's doing is pretty awesome and he doesn't get the attention he deserves because of the two epic losses.
Also you can think what you want about plus minus but Manu being - 30 in only 20 minutes is pretty special.
Matt Bonner gets Pops dry cleaning, does his laundry, mows his lawn, does his taxes, listens to Pop talk about wine for hours and wipes his bottom with lavender scented wipes thats why he starts in situations like tonight. Blair supplies the whataburger.
This game is non issue. Its just a product from the events of the prior nite. Im sure most teams would play like this the day after a tough playoff game.
Joseph only scored on cuts to the basket and transition points in the beginning of the game
he scored 9 of his points in 4th quarter garbage time
he doesnt do anything offensively
he doesnt create offense by running pick and rolls or drawing help defense
he can only do it by being a placeholder and passing into set plays
he still couldnt do that and missed a WIDE open green in the corner on one play and then decided to freelance it up
his defense is a plus but considering Turnobili cant create anything now the pg position needs to be able to have some kind of offensive threat
You Baynes people crack me up. The dude can barely find his apartment in SA.
This is his first stint ever in the NBA. He just joined a team with the most complicated offensive and defensive schemes in the entire world of basketball to understand. The game is going twice as fast as he has ever seen. He has given several interviews saying he is doing his best to adjust but he and the Spurs are on the same page in terms of his development. Yet you think because he has wide shoulders he should be getting 20+ a game and the 3rd big rotation spot.
Just stop, it is really annoying and never going to happen. And if he did get any meaningful minutes you'd probably go change your screen names for all your idiotic takes. He's a project, not an impact player this year. Get it through your skull.
29 three point attempts.. that screams "i'm tired"
this was a disappointing game to watch once the bench came in. manu and blair were absolutely terrible and brought the entire team down.
and pop is really starting to annoy me when it comes to playing bigs. baynes absolutely s all over blair and bonner, just like tiago did, and yet we all know he's gonna be benched until next season. he could be really good for us this season if he actually got to play. ....
Best rebounder in Europe and obviously at worst the second best shot blocker on the roster. Has a jumper, a bank shot and can hit his freethrows, he doesn't need any coorporate knowledge to be better than the turd towers.
I think Buford understands that and that why he signed him mid season but sadly Pop has the final say and he loves his turd towers too much.
what a take, so you would rather have no knees blair and matt "anti-clutch" bonner out there just because they know the "system'? thats bull . let baynes learn on the go. of course he shouldn't get starter minutes but he should get bonners or blairs minutes. may not be much but what harm can it do? whens the last time bonner or blair blocked someone going to the rim?
Please put away the stupid, it hurts.
Yes, RC sent Pop an email and was like, "hey man, i just scored this dude with HUGE shoulders who played on the Aussie team play HIMMMM!!!" and a couple minutes later Baynes shows up in Pop's office and he's like "who the is this guy? I'm not playing him, I'm gonna troll RC and show him who's boss!"
ing idiocy.
Do you think these guys are just robots? What harm can it do? You can destroy his confidence and set back his entire development plan by throwing him into a dragon pit during a late season run when you're a contender. 9 times out of 10 he's going to up and put it on himself. Your understanding of player development is pre pre-school.
Just stop with the idiocy, the 15th guy on the bench has never had an outcome on the "championship vs. no championship question". Idiots.
I hate the turd towers as much as the next guy, but people that think Pop is going to just let Baynes go out there and play anything other than garbage time hasn't watched the Spurs much. And let's be clear here, Baynes right now probably couldn't even drive himself home, much less become the next Tiago Splitter in 20 or so games.
LMAO, still a take tbh, so seeing the garbage brothers get minutes over him must really boost his confidence, right? what a joke. no one is saying he is going to become a factor in the playoffs this year, but to say we cant use him in the regular season is just plain idiotic.
+1
And I know this isn't a popular take in these parts, but I would argue the reason we've seen Tiago develop into the player he is right now (overlooking tonight's performance) is because the Spurs don't do "player on the fly" development. For all the ing the past two years of him not getting minutes, the Spurs took the semi-conservative approach of gradually integrating him and allowing him to grow and maximize his skillset so they can reap the results for another run in a relatively short period of time. It's not like he is an athletic freak, but his PnR timing is now the best in the game and his finishing touch and consistency around the basket are 100% better than they were even at the 20-game point this season.
Your understanding of player development is pre pre-school.
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