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    this is a joke, not that its cool, but the state have bases every where of there and it would rain on NK tbh

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    Nuking DC could be a good thing.

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    North Korea's just itching for a fight and a little ass whooping would stop all this nonsense. Sometimes a fight is needed to settle the waters.

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    I would assume gyro-guided ICBM which seems like an empty threat. To my knowledge this is the first time they have threatened something like this though.
    Not really.

    They have said all of this stupid before, from what I have read.

    It is the first time they have had some almost plausible missles.

    Their most recent "nuclear test" was of a weapon smaller than the A-bombs used on Japan. By "smaller" I mean "smaller yield".

    Quite frankly, I would not find it all that implausible that they faked it, using massive amounts of conventional explosives.

    Even assuming they had a-bombs.. you have to get them small enough to fit on an ICBM, a technical problem in and of itself.

    THEN you have to have an ICBM capable of, you know, not exploding in midflight AND capable of hitting a target.

    NK has not, to date, demonstrated any such capabilities, just intentions, wildly unsucessful missle launches aside.

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    NK has been Saber Rattling for years. Going to now believe the boy who cries wolf?
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    Their rattling is not entirely something to think won't happen.

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    China is denouncing them as well. If there is a war it won't be a long lasting one.
    That is actually something that has changed.

    The Chinese have very clearly had it with NK too, and have been very uncharactoristically public with it.

    China might very likely muzzle its chihuahua.

    Moreover, last month China endorsed a UN Security Council resolution condemning December’s rocket launch, and warned North Korea not to conduct a nuclear test. A Communist Party newspaper argued that if it went ahead, China should “reduce its assistance”, which, in the form of fuel and food, keeps North Korea going. In Seoul, Shi Yinhong, a scholar in international relations at Renmin University in Beijing, called it nonsense to suggest that China was beginning to see North Korea as less of a strategic asset and more of a liability. North Korea, he said, had always been a liability, ever since 1950, when Kim Jong Un’s grandfather started the Korean war, embroiling China. Now, however, China’s indulgence appears to be stretched to breaking point. It shocked and angered the Pyongyang authorities by supporting the UN resolution on North Korea’s rocket launch.

    Even Mr Shi, however, thinks it neither likely nor desirable that China would cut the Kim dynasty loose. Continued influence allows China at least to try to moderate North Korean behaviour. It still sees North Korea as an important buffer between China and the American troops in South Korea. China fears chaos and regime collapse more than it does a nuclear-armed North Korea.

    So, true to form, China now seems ready to indulge its neighbour. Global Times, the paper that had threatened punishment, now argues that China should give North Korea a ticking off but that “the warning should be one that informs a strategic friend about China’s bottom line. China cannot join the camp of the US, South Korea and Japan, by making North Korea China’s enemy.”
    http://www.economist.com/news/asia/2...north-wind-and
    SK elected a very hardline leader following a couple of high-profile attacks. If NK deciced to do something after the US-SK exercises are over, there is a good chance SK would do soemthing about it, and that would be very dangerous.

    That is what is different than the past.

    The Chinese no longer see them as worth the trouble, and the SK government is getting fed up at its dinky ass neighbor as well.

    SK's influence on China grows with each new trade that goes back and forth.

    Oddly, if we took our troops out of South Korea, we would free the Chinese to deal with the s once and for all, IMO.

    It isn't like we couldn't bomb the snot out of NK with missles anytime we wanted to.

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    Not really.

    They have said all of this stupid before, from what I have read.

    It is the first time they have had some almost plausible missles.

    Their most recent "nuclear test" was of a weapon smaller than the A-bombs used on Japan. By "smaller" I mean "smaller yield".

    Quite frankly, I would not find it all that implausible that they faked it, using massive amounts of conventional explosives.

    Even assuming they had a-bombs.. you have to get them small enough to fit on an ICBM, a technical problem in and of itself.

    THEN you have to have an ICBM capable of, you know, not exploding in midflight AND capable of hitting a target.

    NK has not, to date, demonstrated any such capabilities, just intentions, wildly unsucessful missle launches aside.
    They have not threatened nuclear strikes before afaik.

    They have launched a three stage rocket and delivered a payload into space that was on trajectory and staged correctly. They key is having the guidance system for the way down. They have not demonstrated that. I don't think there is any question that they can lob something at Seoul.

    I agree that this is just rhetoric from them though. With China contributing to the denunciation they have to realize that aggression from them would be the end of the Kim dynasty.

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    Cheonan

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    Their rattling is not entirely something to think won't happen.
    Disputed territory. It is understandable for them to do what they did.

    Not that I agree with their actions, but depending on one's perspective, it can be claimed as warranted.

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    Nuking DC could be a good thing.
    There's a part of me that can't help but agree. Only a very, very small part, but it's there.

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    the govt would allow the strike to happen, just like 9/11?

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    the govt would allow the strike to happen, just like 9/11?
    If you say so Cosmored.

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    The US has open borders. If the cartels can get tons of dope into the US every day, NK (or someone else) could get a nuke in without having to use missiles to deploy.

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    The US has open borders. If the cartels can get tons of dope into the US every day, NK (or someone else) could get a nuke in without having to use missiles to deploy.

    That might be true, but at ground level the impact would be greatly lessened. Might as well just blow up an IED at that point.

    Also, the tons of dope is in smaller, discrete intervals. The only way to get a bomb of appreciable size would be to transmit small amounts of uranium then build a dirty bomb here. But even ONE packet gets found, all of border patrol would immediately go on lockdown.

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    That might be true, but at ground level the impact would be greatly lessened. Might as well just blow up an IED at that point.

    Also, the tons of dope is in smaller, discrete intervals. The only way to get a bomb of appreciable size would be to transmit small amounts of uranium then build a dirty bomb here. But even ONE packet gets found, all of border patrol would immediately go on lockdown.
    Meh. They bring in by the truckload and container load too.

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    Meh. They bring in by the truckload and container load too.
    True, but I'm assuming they have some way to test for radioactivity. The bigger the pile, the greater chance it will be detected.

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    You know what they say about assumptions.

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    You know what they say about assumptions.
    A couple of years ago I was hauling some crap off to the dump after cleaning my parent's garage. 3 weeks before I had undergone a cardiac stress test with radioactive dye.
    I set off the radiation detector at the dump ground.

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    Disputed territory. It is understandable for them to do what they did.

    Not that I agree with their actions, but depending on one's perspective, it can be claimed as warranted.
    I was merely pointing out that their temper tantrums can be quite lethal.

    They are not the "boy who cried wolf", as you asserted.

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    That does no good when they would simply go around such points.

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    I was merely pointing out that their temper tantrums can be quite lethal.

    They are not the "boy who cried wolf", as you asserted.
    Those incidents were right off their shores. Not disputed territory.

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    One day we will carpet bomb them and then there will be a "yay!" collectively from the audience, then silence, then the accusations of war mongering and there must be oil in NK else we wouldn't be there.

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    True, but I'm assuming they have some way to test for radioactivity.



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    That does no good when they would simply go around such points.
    How would that be accomplished?

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    One day we will carpet bomb them and then there will be a "yay!" collectively from the audience, then silence, then the accusations of war mongering and there must be oil in NK else we wouldn't be there.
    you're way smarter than that. NWO and corruption are very real..there are reasons why we invade the countries we do, and it isn't purely about oil and it sure isn't about doing the right thing. look into it and research it is all i'm saying, our government is hijacked by evil interests. i'll start you off with just one topic to look up:

    north american union

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