Spurs: Did Refs try to F Spurs at home vs Thunderefs?

[Cry Havoc]

You're like a kid, partner. Act like your team has won and isn't a loser like the LA Clippers

And you OKC fans are acting like you've won something? Wtf is this?

Talking smack like you've ever done anything meaningful in the NBA.

Accusing other fans of not acting like they've been there.

[Cry Havoc]

OKC is like Danica Patrick. Lots of talent, and their ability to drive is pretty, but they want to pretend like they haven't had every ing handout along the way to get where they are. All that's missing is for her to steal someone's car and the analogy would be perfect.

[OKC]

I wouldn't want to drink with you. With your temper and ability to fly off the handle like Westbrook who knows what would happen

Ah man I've not made any threatening comments to you. Westbrook just wants you to think he's crazy. He's anti confrontational. Fake tough guy I think you guys call that.

[OKC]

OKC is like Danica Patrick. Lots of talent, and their ability to drive is pretty, but they want to pretend like they haven't had every ing handout along the way to get where they are. All that's missing is for her to steal someone's car and the analogy would be perfect.

Good bang for the buck!!

[Cry Havoc]

I really want some of what you're drinking tonight. I think if we sat down together and drank some of it, we'd get along.

[lefty]

did u actually watch the game or do u just post stats and make absurd assumptions?

STFU got

[Clipper Nation]

You're like a kid, partner. Act like your team has won and isn't a loser like the LA Clippers

Speaking of acting like you've been there before:

looks like the Spurs blew their wad playing us. Back down to earth they go.

Posted upstairs in the first half of a regular season game, referring to another regular season game

[OKC]

Hey look. I know we get a lot of foul calls. Lets just say some are deserved and some or not. Now that right there we can ALL agree to and call it a day!

[Cry Havoc]

Speaking of acting like you've been there before:



Posted upstairs in the first half of a regular season game, referring to another regular season game

thunderefup has already been outed as the biggest hypocrite on the board, nothing new. OKC has had some decent takes until this thread.

[Cry Havoc]

Good bang for the buck!!

Oh, and Westbrook dresses like a vagina.

[OKC]

Oh, and Westbrook dresses like a vagina.

There's some truth to that

[td4mvp2k]

Ah man I've not made any threatening comments to you. Westbrook just wants you to think he's crazy. He's anti confrontational. Fake tough guy I think you guys call that.

Ya thats why he wanted to F up the Nuggets mascot Rocky cuz he was anti confrontational...

[OKC]

Ya thats why he wanted to F up the Nuggets mascot Rocky cuz he was anti confrontational...

I saw him taunting Rocky and blocking his half court shots. Pretty damn funny

[td4mvp2k]

I saw him taunting Rocky and blocking his half court shots. Pretty damn funny

what a SOB!

[ambchang]

OKC shoots 5 more FT's per game than their opponent. Yeah, without those 4 points a game they'd be pretty damn average! Anyone who thinks the only reason OKC is above mediocrity is due to shooting 5 more FTs a game than their opponent has ZERO credibility and shouldn't even discuss basketball.

Having 5 more FTs a game is quite significant. Given OKC is shooting 0.832% on FTs this season, that translates to 4.316 points per game. OKC is +9.3 per game this season, and if the 4.316 points were taken out, they will have a point differential of 4.98, closer to the Nuggets (4.6) than the Clippers (6.7). I would say going from OKC (elite) to Nuggets (a mid-tier playoff team) is a pretty darn big drop, as in one with le hopes to one without.

Add to that the effects of the difficulty of guarding a team knowing that you will be whistled for a foul on the slightest of defense, and that is another couple of points, and they could be at the Grizzlies level of +4.3 per game.

But hey, you have all the credibility on this board.

[ambchang]

I can admit that Kevin gets the benefit of the whistle frequently. The problem with San Antonio Heat fans is they can't admit the same for Lebrick.

Because Lebrick (lol, .559FG%, .4PT%, and .749FT% vs. Durant's .505, .414 and .910) shoots 6.87 FTA on 17.9 FGA, or 0.383 FTA/FTA, whereas Durant is 9.34 on 17.89 (0.52), and Westbrook is at 7 on 18.84 (0.37).

[OKC]

Having 5 more FTs a game is quite significant. Given OKC is shooting 0.832% on FTs this season, that translates to 4.316 points per game. OKC is +9.3 per game this season, and if the 4.316 points were taken out, they will have a point differential of 4.98, closer to the Nuggets (4.6) than the Clippers (6.7). I would say going from OKC (elite) to Nuggets (a mid-tier playoff team) is a pretty darn big drop, as in one with le hopes to one without.

Add to that the effects of the difficulty of guarding a team knowing that you will be whistled for a foul on the slightest of defense, and that is another couple of points, and they could be at the Grizzlies level of +4.3 per game.

But hey, you have all the credibility on this board.

In all fairness, my statement about zero credibility was in reponse to post #46 of this thread where KL2 said "Okc would be a pretty average team without the reffing they get."
Now you have to admit, that's a bit of an absurd claim. Even if I agreed to all of your points above, to say OKC is AVERAGE without foul calls is something that someone with not much knowledge of basketball would claim.

[ambchang]

In all fairness, my statement about zero credibility was in reponse to post #46 of this thread where KL2 said "Okc would be a pretty average team without the reffing they get."
Now you have to admit, that's a bit of an absurd claim. Even if I agreed to all of your points above, to say OKC is AVERAGE without foul calls is something that someone with not much knowledge of basketball would claim.

Depends on how you define average. If you take it as the strictest terms, as in 15 out of 30 teams (fringe playoff team), then yeah, it sounds absurb. But if you talk about mid-tier playoff teams being average, then the analysis seems to be spot on.

[OKC]

By the way, call me some blind homer or whatever you wanna say, but I've got Spurs fans on this board (look on page 1 of this thread) that agree with my assessment of OKC's style of play naturally lending itself to drawing more fouls - legit fouls - not this BS conspiracy, the world is against me victim mentality people wanna flaunt around here.

[OKC]

Let's focus on Westbrook. I'll concede that I can see some BS calls KD gets. The mini rip move and all of that. But for the sake of the argument let's focus on Westbrook. This dude is fouled a LOT. How can anyone deny that? He's not getting ticky tack reach in calls holding the ball in isolation. He's full tilt at the rim all game long. Easily the most aggressive player in the game, or one of. One argument here was - well Parker attacks the paint a lot too, but he doesn't get the FT love. Please don't tell me as an intelligent spurs fan that you don't see any difference in Westbrook and Parker's paint attack! Again, forget KD, I'd like to hear some opinions strictly on Westbrook. 7 FTs a game with THAT style of play? Do NOT understand the beef on that at all.

[ambchang]

I watch Parker a lot more than Westbrook, but to say that Parker get's less contact in the game is high su ious. Parker gets lots of contact. So does Lebron, so does Wade. Westbrook is getting the Wade treatment back in 2006, and that is a shame, he doesn't need it. From what I saw, Westbrook initiates contact as much as the defender does, and yet he gets the benefit of the doubt almost every time. Many of these should be no calls.

A prime example was his half court heave in the Spurs game, nobody in their right minds would throw up that shot anticipating a call, you do that AFTER you heard the whistle, and yet he was so accustomed to getting the call that he just threw the thing from mid court expecting a call. It comes with years of conditioning, and props to the refs that time for not making the call.

[ambchang]

And BTW, Durant gets more FTAs than Westbrook, to take him entirely out of the picture is no fair, as the thread is about the Thunder as a team. Durant has a style of play similar to Gervin back in the days, while the way the game is reffed has evolved over the years with the game being MUCH more perimeter friendly, Gervin was no where close to Durant in FT attempts.

[OKC]

I watch Parker a lot more than Westbrook, but to say that Parker get's less contact in the game is high su ious. Parker gets lots of contact. So does Lebron, so does Wade. Westbrook is getting the Wade treatment back in 2006, and that is a shame, he doesn't need it. From what I saw, Westbrook initiates contact as much as the defender does, and yet he gets the benefit of the doubt almost every time. Many of these should be no calls.

A prime example was his half court heave in the Spurs game, nobody in their right minds would throw up that shot anticipating a call, you do that AFTER you heard the whistle, and yet he was so accustomed to getting the call that he just threw the thing from mid court expecting a call. It comes with years of conditioning, and props to the refs that time for not making the call.

Let's get real now - Westbrooks gettin to the line one more time a game than Parker. One trip guys. He's making 3 more shot attempts per game - and keep in mind shot attempts do not include shot attempts where one is fouled, his approach to the basket is far more aggressive than Parker's, and the refs are awarding him ONE MORE TRIP TO THE LINE per game. Now how anyone here can put up a big argument about that is beyond me.

[ambchang]

Parker is shooting 4.9FTA/G (#19 in the league), and Westbrook is at 7 (#6 in the league), that is a difference of 2.1. That is the difference between Tony Parker and George Hill or Wesley Matthews. It's a pretty big difference.

[OKC]

Parker is shooting 4.9FTA/G (#19 in the league), and Westbrook is at 7 (#6 in the league), that is a difference of 2.1. That is the difference between Tony Parker and George Hill or Wesley Matthews. It's a pretty big difference.

It's a SINGLE trip to the FT line. 2 foul shots. Westbrook is attempting 3 more shot attempts per game than Parker - even with the 2 more FT attempts per game. With his game, averaging a SINGLE trip to the line per game more than Parker is completely reasonable and makes perfect sense. You're really arguing this?