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Give it up, loser.
No no no. When bd drew it down to the most basic level you said it, no regulation is fine with me. Then you threw out some bull about me making a strawman. I can walk you through your dismantling if you like.
Give it up, loser.
there isn't any such thing as an "assault weapon." i guess theoretically that just means a weapon used to assault someone..which basically everything on earth falls into that category. my cell phone is an "assault weapon" if i throw it as hard as i can at someone. so we need to just ban life and kill ourselves i guess, government can go first.
actually that would be difficult to do since it would probably entail a violation of the following section of violent crime control and law enforcement act of 1994 (which also contains the assault weapons ban that ended in 2004)
SEC. 60014. HOMICIDES AND ATTEMPTED HOMICIDES INVOLVINGFIREARMS IN FEDERAL FACILITIES.Section 930 of le 18, United States Code, is amended—(1) by redesignating subsections (c), (d), (e), and (f) as subsections(d), (e), (f), and (g), respectively;(2) in subsection (a) by striking ‘‘(c)’’ and inserting ‘‘(d)’’;and(3) by inserting after subsection (b) the following new subsection:‘‘(c) A person who kills or attempts to kill any person in thecourse of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of anattack on a Federal facility involving the use of a firearm or otherdangerous weapon, shall be punished as provided in sections 1111,1112, and 1113.’’.
Feinstein: Reid excluded the assault-weapons ban from Senate gun bill
POSTED AT 9:21 AM ON MARCH 19, 2013 BY ED MORRISSEY
No one expected the assault-weapons ban proposed by Dianne Feinstein to pass as part of the Senate’s gun-control package. Now it won’t even be a part of it. Last night, Feinstein told reporters that Harry Reid had excluded it from the final version of the legislative package:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said on Monday that a controversial assault weapons ban will not be part of a Democratic gun bill that was expected to reach the Senate floor next month.
After a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday, a frustrated Feinstein said she learned that the bill she sponsored — which bans 157 different models of assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines — wouldn’t be part of a Democratic gun bill to be offered on the Senate floor. Instead, it can be offered as an amendment. But its exclusion from the package makes what was already an uphill battle an almost certain defeat.
“Almost certain defeat”? Left on its own as an amendment, Feinstein’s bill would be lucky to get 35 votes. She knows it, too, which is why she vented her frustration:
“My understanding is it will not be [part of the base bill],” Feinstein said. “It will be separate.”
Asked if she were concerned about the decision, Feinstein paused and said, “Sure. I would like to [see the bill moved], but the leader has decided not to do it.”
“You will have to ask him [Reid],” she said, when asked why the decision was made.
Do we need to ask? Reid can be accused of many things, but he’s not clueless when it comes to the politics of guns. Reid wants to pass a bipartisan bill to expand background checks, and he’s more than willing to sacrifice Feinstein’s effort to get it, especially since Reid was never enthusiastic about the renewed AWB in the first place.
This way, he gets two wins. First, using Feinstein’s proposal as the extreme of the effort, the background-check legislation looks more reasonable, even where it may not be. Second, by allowing Democrats in red states to vote against the AWB in a separate floor action, he protects them from attacks in the 2014 election. It’s a win-win for Reid.
It’s more of a mixed bag for gun-rights advocates. Depending on whether the Senate bill includes federal registration of all firearms, it’s a big loss — but that has absolutely no chance of passing the House anyway, and Republicans in the Senate won’t have any reason to stick around if it does. If it doesn’t, it’s more of a headache than a problem. The upside will be the outright rejection of the AWB, which should stick a stake through its heart for another decade after politicians who took the risk to demand it ended up with egg on their faces.
these same states will be the first ones to get their asses kicked once civil war kicks in
^yeah buddy, patriots will sweep through the disarmed liberal states like a tidal wave crashing through the beach, wiping out new world order collaborators in our path.
Except the part where it's going to be the police and military forces and not liberals in Manhattan that you are fighting. Go full on with the schtick and advocate going Pol Pott with them.
police and military are waking up, most of the military will defect and join their real american brothers. our servicement call into conservative/libertarian talk radio all the time, the vets know they're targets. it'll be patriots, former military and police, and many current military and police taking back our country in a bloodbath. globalists will be hung from billboards and their ty bodies left in ditches.
Gun Violence Costs U.S. Health Care System, Taxpayers Billions Each Year
The bullet exploded like a fragment from the past, piercing his present and laying waste to the future he envisioned. It tore through Jerome Graham’s back, wrecked his spleen, damaged his pancreas and kidney, and left him paralyzed from the waist down.
And while the direct medical consequences of that gunshot fired a year ago in East Baltimore end there, the full force of its destruction has reverberated more broadly, encompassing Graham’s friends, his family, his community. It has carried into the American health care system, while confronting American taxpayers with costs reaching hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Before he was shot last year, Graham, 33, supported his wife and three children by working as an electrician. Barring a medical miracle, he will never walk again, greatly complicating his ability to earn a paycheck. Since the shot went through his body, he and his family have come to rely on government programs like Medicaid, Social Security and subsidized housing.
In the American conversation, discussion of gun-related violence generally centers on the tragic loss of life or permanent injuries that result. But beneath these headline-grabbing, life-shattering facts are costs measured in vast numbers of dollars.
Firearms-related deaths cost the U.S. health care system and economy $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attempted an estimate. The cost of those who survive gun violence came to another $3.7 billion that year, according to the CDC.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...=Daily%20Brief
No doubt that NRA will be buying enough Repugs to defund such CDC gun violence data collection, just like NRA bought enough Repugs to block other govt gun studies and record keeping.
5-Year-Old Get .22 Caliber Birthday Rifle, Shoots and Kills 2-Year-Old Sister
A 5-year-old-boy shot and killed his 2-year-old sister with a .22 caliber rifle he received for his birthday, said police in berland County, Ohio, where the incident occurred.
"It's a Crickett," said berland County coroner Gary White. "It's a little rifle for a kid. ...The little boy's used to shooting the little gun."
The Lexington Herald-Leader reports the shooting happened around 1 p.m. with the mother at home. The family says they didn’t know the gun was loaded.
"Just one of those crazy accidents," said White.
Crickett .22s are manufactured and sold by Keystone Sporting Arms, LLC. The Pennsylvania-based weapons maker markets its signature product as “My First Rifle.”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...tter833535&t=5
My First Rifle and My First Sibling Kill!
More guns = more gun violence and deaths.
I wonder if they are gonna get her mounted?
What 5 year old has his own rifle? What parents leave said rifle in the corner of the living room loaded and unattended? These sorry excuses for parents need to both place their lips around the barrel of that .22 and pull the trigger for their gross negligence.
this will be written off as an accident
The parents are guilty of child endangerment, both should be fined and imprisoned for manslaughter.
The rights of that five year old shall not be infringed.
http://blogs.marke ch.com/electio...k-at-the-data/
i dont get the point of having a handgun without a special license or concealed permit. theyre easy to hide and transport. drug dealers and crooks love that because theyre lightweight and look gangsta.
rifles and shotguns? perfect for home/vehicle/work defense. i only own a 30-30, semi auto shotgun and a SKS, and that's all i need, and they're for hunting. i dont get the point of having a handgun unless im selling crack.
i doubt the legislature even looks at stats. it's all about sensationalism, reelections and job security for them.
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Last edited by The Reckoning; 05-01-2013 at 09:43 PM.
lmao @ "My First Rifle"
Inside the Kiddie Gun Market
The Crickett is a small, air-light firearm billed as “My First Rifle” by gun manufacturer Keystone Sporting Arms. It comes in pink and blue. It is a “training wheels” gun, part of the growing youth market in firearms.
As NBC News reports:
Firearms made for minors represent a new market for gun makers, said Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center. As the gun market has been saturated, Sugarmann said, gun makers have followed a “path trailblazed by a wide range of other industries, particularly the tobacco industry, and focused its efforts on women and children.”
Yet despite the availability of triggers for tiny fingers, gun makers and marketers are hesitant to actually spell out what age a child should be before handling his or her first firearm, said Sugarmann. Crickett’s website, for instance, makes no references to appropriate age ranges for their child-sized weapons.
“There’s a recognition that the majority of the American public has concerns about putting guns in the hands of children,” he said.
Through studies and promotional materials, some sporting associations encourage young people to take up hunting and shooting as recreational activities, and point to potential benefits — both for avid gun-owners and youths themselves — of young people handling firearms.
Magazines like “Junior Shooter” call hunting with firearms “one of the safest recreational activities in America,” and sees introducing kids to guns early on as a direct investment in future pro-gun voters: “Each person who is introduced to the shooting sports and has a positive experience is another vote in favor of keeping our American heritage and freedom alive,” Junior Shooter editor-in-chief Andy Fink wrote in the winter 2012 issue.” Adding: “They may not be old enough to vote now, but they will be in the future.”
“Kid guns” aren’t such an unusual phenomenon from a marketing perspective; fast food chains, clothing brands and other companies target young consumers to establish product loyalty and lifelong purchasing habits, but a youth recruitment strategy for deadly weapons has, understandably, given some gun control advocates pause.
In an interview reported by USA Today, Dr. Denise Dowd, an emergency room pediatrician who co-wrote the American Academy of Pediatricians policy on children and guns, said she was “blown away” that anyone would buy a rifle for a 5-year-old child.
“We don’t give our kids the keys to our car, and there is a good reason for it,” she added.
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/03/insi...ie_gun_market/
2nd Amendment?
home defense?
I have a small, flaccid . YES!
It's all about SOFT ON CRIME and selling guns and ammo.
I think we all agree here a five year old shouldn't have a rifle, much like you shouldn't have Internet access.
Apparently, the NRA, the gun mfrs, and plenty of gun fellating bubbas who buy guns for their kids, aren't part of your "we".
do you support rigorous b/g checks for every gun purchase, with penalties for sellers not performing b/g checks?
I have stated numerous times I am fine with background checks for purchases, as long as that information is not used for confiscation down the road.
What I don't like is since it becomes public record, you have the freedom of information fanatics that like to publish what still should be considered private information.
That's right. Tell thieves who own guns so you can case their place and steel them when they go out...
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