Lakers: LOL Kobe thinks he's MJ

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Too bad you can't prove that.

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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Lebron will pretty much overshadow Duncan, Shaq & Kobe.

& that "probability" you humps could live with.

Pussies.

[midnightpulp]

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

Rings are team accomplishments.

[midnightpulp]

Killa, Duncan is not a volume shooter and he'll obviously put up fewer numbers than Kobe. Consider the success Tim has had with a small market is far more impressive in my book. Again it's very debatable and every now and then like today, you get to realize how good Tim really was and still is. He impacts both ends and is so fundamentally sound and unselfish.

I don't think you'll even hear about the post Jordan era if Lebron dominates over the next 3-4 seasons. Lebron will pretty much overshadow Duncan, Shaq & Kobe.

This is where you'll lose Killa. Kobe fans are incapable of considering anything else but PPG.

[scanry]

Too bad you can't prove that.

Exactly. Considering Duncan's resurgence and longevity, he's surpassed Shaq in my book.

[scanry]

& that "probability" you humps could live with.

Pussies.

Not necessarily, but I've come to appreciate his consistency and shot selection. Lebron like Shaq & Duncan were before doesn't over assert his presence in a game. He's learned to adapt and take very good shots. Kobe on the other hand is still forcing up shots and that's hurting the Lakers.

I think you're intelligent enough to realize that. BTW the Lakers have a great big man if i'm not mistaken, so if his back is alright this summer i would give him the reins and get Kareem (and Phil) to do the rest (and also trade Nash in the process).

[Capt Bringdown]

Just the Nike-NBA PR stuff generating as much dissonance as they can for free publicity. The stuff must be from music industry background, their target audience is similar after all.

Nailed it. It's marketing masquerading as news. Pretty smart from their perspective.

[scanry]

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

That tired old stick could just back fire as Duncan is having a better year than Kobe. So Duncan is overcoming the bag stick and the 100 mil payroll this season to punk good old Culburn. You didn't expect that did you Cul?

[midnightpulp]

What irritates me about Kobe homers is that they want him to be exempt from all previous standards traditionally used to determine the best players of a particular era. Magic had the best playoff stats, most lead dog rings, and most Finals MVPs of his era. Jordan led those categories during his era. Kobe is 3rd in those categories behind Duncan and Shaq, but yet his fans (and some members of the media) insist he's the best player of his era. By what measurement? 81 points and 5 rings?

[Thebesteva]

What irritates me about Kobe homers is that they want him to be exempt from all previous standards traditionally used to determine the best players of a particular era. Magic had the best playoff stats, most lead dog rings, and most Finals MVPs of his era. Jordan led those categories during his era. Kobe is 3rd in those categories behind Duncan and Shaq, but yet his fans (and some members of the media) insist he's the best player of his era. By what measurement? 81 points and 5 rings?

Kobe fans are usually 18-22 years old. The only NBA they remember is what they find on youtube.

[midnightpulp]

What irritates me about Kobe homers is that they want him to be exempt from all previous standards traditionally used to determine the best players of a particular era. Magic had the best playoff stats, most lead dog rings, and most Finals MVPs of his era. Jordan led those categories during his era. Kobe is 3rd in those categories behind Duncan and Shaq, but yet his fans (and some members of the media) insist he's the best player of his era. By what measurement? 81 points and 5 rings?

And if anyone is gonna throw the "eye test" argument at me, Duncan becomes even better in that regard. So much of what Duncan does on the court can't be quantified. From the picks he sets, the shots he alters in the paint, his outlet passing, the "hockey assists," and the double and triple teams he used to draw.

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't he even draw quadruple teams in the Finals when Byron Scott got sufficiently desperate? That just says it all, tbh....

[midnightpulp]

Kobe fans are usually 18-22 years old. The only NBA they remember is what they find on youtube.

I think Kobe is an awesome player and the most fundamentally sound 2 guard of all-time, even more so than Jordan, but when you examine the total picture, Kobe's career falls just a hair short of Duncan's. This isn't hate. Or bitterness. Or jealously. Or homering for Duncan. It's a fact.

That said, I guess it also depends how much stock you put into the regular season, since Kobe has been a better regular season player since '06 than Duncan.

[midnightpulp]

Didn't he even draw quadruple teams in the Finals when Byron Scott got sufficiently desperate? That just says it all, tbh....

Yep.

[jimbo]

You pretty much boxed him out there. You've made an accusation and denied him the ability to prove you wrong. I like it.

tbh lakersarethebest could just post up some pics of his lakers jerseys/stuff with a timestamp to prove that he's a fan

[scanry]

I think Kobe is an awesome player and the most fundamentally sound 2 guard of all-time, even more so than Jordan, but when you examine the total picture, Kobe's career falls just a hair short of Duncan's. This isn't hate. Or bitterness. Or jealously. Or homering for Duncan. It's a fact.

That said, I guess it also depends how much stock you put into the regular season, since Kobe has been a better regular season player since '06 than Duncan.

You're overrating Jordan's athleticism tbh. He focused more so on fundamentals than any one in the history and especially after the 88-89 season. From then on i remember listening to Tex Winters talking about Jordan wanting to learn the triangle and the fundamentals. However Kobe is close though. I think the best fundamentally sound players in our era are probably:

Duncan
Garnett
Kobe
Battier
Tony Allen
Pau Gasol
Pierce

[Bynumite]

OP tries too hard to be seen as unbiased by spurfan It's sad to watch tbh.

Both players are all time greats that can bring a level of compe iveness and skill to the game that ball fans like to watch, simple as that. OP is acting like Kobe was comparing accolades.

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OP tries too hard to be seen as unbiased by spurfan It's sad to watch tbh.

That's been Mid's MO since I got to know him. It makes him endearing if not lovable.

[Seventyniner]

And now Kobe claims that he has the flu. How much more MJ envy can he possibly show?

If Kobe even mentions the words "flu-like symptoms" I will laugh my ass off.

[midnightpulp]

That's been Mid's MO since I got to know him. It makes him endearing if not lovable.

Not the OP, Cub.

[midnightpulp]

You're overrating Jordan's athleticism tbh. He focused more so on fundamentals than any one in the history and especially after the 88-89 season. From then on i remember listening to Tex Winters talking about Jordan wanting to learn the triangle and the fundamentals. However Kobe is close though. I think the best fundamentally sound players in our era are probably:

Duncan
Garnett
Kobe
Battier
Tony Allen
Pau Gasol
Pierce

If we factor in defense, then yes, Jordan is the overall more fundamentally sound player. I think Kobe is a touch more fundamentally sound offensively, but Jordan has the higher basketball IQ and was much better than Kobe at adapting his on court play to the feel and rhythm of the game.

[lefty]

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Was that a Laker fan or a Meth hick fan?

[lefty]

Was that a Laker fan or a Meth hick fan?

Katelyn Faber's lawyer picking DNA sample

[Sean Cagney]

^You had a foothold until:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

Solly Cholly.

Kobe is now the tired old bag himself!!!!!! Both are all stars though so... You do the math. got.