Pacers have traded this pick to the Spurs for George Hill sources say

[iminol]

http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsi...ll-transcript/

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[Samr.]

I think the dude has a point with that. Youre one of the best teams in the league right now. Come to the game, show your support. It's a business yeah, and I guess technically you can root for whomever you wanna root for. But it's your home town team. That kinda gets to the heart of what sports is all about, at least for me. You gotta support them regardless of wins or losses. And you especially don't show up in Lakers jerseys. Because that's just disrespectful.

[Cane]

“It sucks. It was 70 (Lakers fans) – 30 (Pacers fans) out there. These are the same people that wants autographs after the game"

Doesn't sound that different from a Lakers game in SA tbh

[exstatic]

George Hill can take it to the rack off the dribble
he can hit the mid range shot coming off screens
and as a spot up shooter he was elite as well
defense was better then Josephs as well with his freak length
the Hill Neal Ginobili Bonner Blair lineup was actually the most offensive efficient lineup in the nba in 2011 iirc
Hills only problem was his inconsistency

i know it wasnt really possible but if the Spurs were able to find a way to sign hill then our bench would be deadly
hill
ginobili
jackson
diaw
splitter/baynes

if we got lucky and were able to get scola too...

SA was never going to pay Indy George what he got to come off the bench.

[exstatic]

Does everyone understand that this was a good trade for both teams, and George Hill is actually really good.

George Hill advanced Stats

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	MP	PER	TS%	eFG%	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48
2008-09	22	SAS	NBA	PG	77	1270	11.6	.502	.435	2.9	11.9	7.4	16.6	1.9	1.2	14.5	19.5	101	104	0.2	2.0	2.1	.080
2009-10	23	SAS	NBA	PG	78	2276	14.7	.572	.529	2.2	8.2	5.3	15.5	1.6	0.8	10.7	19.0	115	106	4.1	2.6	6.7	.142
2010-11	24	SAS	NBA	PG	76	2148	14.6	.588	.514	1.3	9.2	5.4	13.6	1.6	0.7	11.6	18.2	116	108	4.0	2.1	6.1	.136
2011-12	25	IND	NBA	PG	50	1274	15.7	.557	.513	2.8	10.5	6.7	18.8	1.7	1.1	10.8	17.2	117	105	2.8	1.3	4.0	.152
2012-13	26	IND	NBA	PG	60	2078	16.8	.564	.527	2.0	10.5	6.3	24.1	1.5	0.8	11.5	19.2	117	102	4.7	3.1	7.8	.181
Career			NBA		341	9046	14.9	.563	.511	2.1	9.8	6.0	17.6	1.6	0.9	11.6	18.7	114	105	15.7	11.1	26.8	.142

That WS ranks him 21st in the league. That's only 1 statistical measure, so look at a Adjusted +/- measure.

From (http://talkingpracticeblog.com/)

George is 39th in the league in impact.(Again, an estimate)

If he's close to that, his $8 million contract is good value.

Getting that for #15 and #42 is a great deal.

It's possible to recognise that
a) The Spurs won the trade, as Kawhi on #15 pick rookie scale is a better deal than George Hill on 8m and
b) George Hill at $8million is a good deal.

b) is true only if he's starting. He is for Indy, but he wouldn't be here, and he wouldn't be enough of a catalyst/sparkplug to pay 8M to come off the bench.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

He was a horrible playmaker from what I remember but could get hot and was an ultimate team player. I would rather have Leonard at the 2 guard than Hill, not that Leonard is going to be a 2, but I think it's possible he could be in the future.

[milkyway21]

If Hill still a Pacer in October, I might be able watch him play live in Manila

[bbarry]

it's always interesting to read year old posts to see who knows what the they are talking about and who doesn't.

[Obstructed_View]

He was a horrible playmaker from what I remember but could get hot and was an ultimate team player. I would rather have Leonard at the 2 guard than Hill, not that Leonard is going to be a 2, but I think it's possible he could be in the future.

Leonard has put in time at the 2 for the Spurs this year. It's the first time in years the Spurs have decided to dictate with size. Well with big size, anyway.

[FkLA]

Why do dumb spur fans refuse to give Hill his props or look to underrate him? He ended up being a starting PG on a pretty good team, which 99% of you thought he wasnt capable of doing. Id rather have Kawhi over him but need to hate on Hill. Not his fault he was a better floor general in 2010 than Tony tbh.

[DesignatedT]

which 99% of you thought he wasnt capable of doing

Not true.

Not his fault he was a better floor general in 2010 than Tony tbh.

and not true.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do dumb spur fans refuse to give Hill his props or look to underrate him? He ended up being a starting PG on a pretty good team, which 99% of you thought he wasnt capable of doing. Id rather have Kawhi over him but need to hate on Hill. Not his fault he was a better floor general in 2010 than Tony tbh.

You're coming off as desperate here.

[Obstructed_View]

Why do dumb spur fans refuse to give Hill his props or look to underrate him? He ended up being a starting PG on a pretty good team, which 99% of you thought he wasnt capable of doing. Id rather have Kawhi over him but need to hate on Hill. Not his fault he was a better floor general in 2010 than Tony tbh.

My guess is that people are pointing out realities because of silly statements like the above. Hill had more turnovers than assists in the 2010 playoffs, and ranked just behind Matt Bonner in assists per minute. Second to last behind Mahinmi who had zero assists.

[FkLA]

The Spurs turned their season around when ill Hill took over at the PG spot in 2010. Thats reality tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs turned their season around when ill Hill took over at the PG spot in 2010. Thats reality tbh.

Their winning percentage dropped when Parker got hurt. If that isn't reality, then what's it called?

[FkLA]

thats so dishonest

Spurs had a really difficult schedule to end the season...Lakers, Cavs, OKC, and Magic twice. They also had the Celtics and Chicken Nuggets. If you dont think the Spurs played better during that stretch than they had all season than youre just a dumbass tbh. Pop didnt keep him in the starting line-up even when Parker was healthy just for fun.

[Obstructed_View]

thats so dishonest

Spurs had a really difficult schedule to end the season...Lakers, Cavs, OKC, and Magic twice. They also had the Celtics and Chicken Nuggets. If you dont think the Spurs played better during that stretch than they had all season than youre just a dumbass tbh. Pop didnt keep him in the starting line-up even when Parker was healthy just for fun.

Odd, since he didn't keep Hill in the starting lineup when Parker was healthy, he started Garrett Temple and brought Parker off the bench. Hill got four or five games off before the playoffs. Since Manu had been moved into the starting lineup when Parker got hurt, Tony assumed the sixth man role when the playoffs came around because there wasn't enough time to re-establish the lineups. That is, until Hill the bed against the Suns at which point Hill got benched and Parker started.

[therealtruth]

Odd, since he didn't keep Hill in the starting lineup when Parker was healthy, he started Garrett Temple and brought Parker off the bench. Hill got four or five games off before the playoffs. Since Manu had been moved into the starting lineup when Parker got hurt, Tony assumed the sixth man role when the playoffs came around because there wasn't enough time to re-establish the lineups. That is, until Hill the bed against the Suns at which point Hill got benched and Parker started.

It's hard to say a series can be lost in the first few minutes but I think Hill may have done that against the Suns.

[therealtruth]

Why do dumb spur fans refuse to give Hill his props or look to underrate him? He ended up being a starting PG on a pretty good team, which 99% of you thought he wasnt capable of doing. Id rather have Kawhi over him but need to hate on Hill. Not his fault he was a better floor general in 2010 than Tony tbh.

Hill wasn't a floor general. He gave the ball to Manu and got out of the way. It was Manu beasting in after TP got hurt that made the team really good. He probably had one of his best stretches of play as a Spur. I think he was averaging like 25/6/6.

[Obstructed_View]

It's hard to say a series can be lost in the first few minutes but I think Hill may have done that against the Suns.

His first two starts were certainly a disaster.

[spurraider21]

Hill wasn't a floor general. He gave the ball to Manu and got out of the way. It was Manu beasting in after TP got hurt that made the team really good. He probably had one of his best stretches of play as a Spur. I think he was averaging like 25/6/6.

This. Up until the Memphis series, this had been Manu's team (at least as far as the offense) for a couple of years.

[FkLA]

I never said Hill led the Spurs. Manu was playing like prior to that last third of the season btw, his improvement had alot to do with Hill needing the ball in his hands alot less than Tony. IIRC even RJ went from sucking to actually having a pretty decent stretch towards the end of that season.

at people still blaming the Suns loss on Hill, Spurs werent even that good. We were a 7th seed that looked like up until Parker went down and Manu went into god mode.

[EricB]

Lol at the level of fail in this thread when the trade went down.

[Obstructed_View]

I never said Hill led the Spurs.

Oh sorry. I guess the term "FLOOR GENERAL" means something different to the rest of the world.

[mrjap2x]

Who did the spurs like in the 2011 draft other than kawhi?