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Actually makes sense. Republicans shot themselves in the ass with all the debates. I wouldn't get too y about 2016 if I were you fuzzynuts. The Obama economy is gonna be a big pile of to dig out of by then for whoever gets the Dem nomination.
Apparently, he thinks that there were too many debates and that they should have done a better job branding their image. It sounds to me like they are more interested in making themselves appear better while hiding who they are and how they behave and think.
The GOP is going to go down the crapper and this denial does not bode well for midterm election campaigns cranking up around this time next year. This is the direction they are going now. With the GOP senate obstructionism continuing they had best hope they get a really good advertising agency.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162...-to-2012-loss/
Last edited by FuzzyLumpkins; 06-24-2013 at 04:03 PM.
Actually makes sense. Republicans shot themselves in the ass with all the debates. I wouldn't get too y about 2016 if I were you fuzzynuts. The Obama economy is gonna be a big pile of to dig out of by then for whoever gets the Dem nomination.
RNC Planning $10 Million Minority Outreach, Fewer 2016 Debates, Earlier Convention
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2896942.html
RNC chair to fix GOP with ‘hackathons,’ marketing ‘year round’ — but no policy changes
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/1...e+Raw+Story%29
Seriously Fuzzy, did you expect them to say their party sucks and that a majority of Americans saw through their empty pla udes?
You would think debates would actually provide greater exposure to the ideas of the party and thus be events they would want more of, not less...
...unless your ideas suck.
But it's good to hear that they recognize and need to address items where they were way behind, like technology.
I have not voted for a democrat in the last two elections. They shot themselves in the foot because the American public could see what the candidates for what they were like and they sucked. Rick Perry was a buffoon. Rick Santorum is an obnoxious social conservative bordering on zealotry. Romney is a mealy-mouthed dissembler. They shot themselves in the foot because they are awful leaders not because the debates happened. Nevermind that the public attention which is great for democracy was very high. People watched those debates and want to be engaged. The GOP doesn't wnat that.
And lets look at economic indicators and keep in mind this is after an increase in taxes including the payroll tax:
Unemployment: down.
Sales including core sales: up
various stock markets: way up
factory orders: up
Continue living in your dream world. I will continue living in reality.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. That's not directed at you but at them. It would have been one thing to just ignore the issue but it's quite another to address it head on by dismissing it.
Frankly, I think more and more people are coming around to the realization that neither party wants to (or even can?) change the status quo when it comes to the few interests that control a large part of the economy. Banks will keep on being too big to fail, too big to prosecute, large multinationals will keep on outsourcing or outright replacing workers with automation to please Wall Street, the MIC will keep milking the government for every penny they have, etc etc etc.
Guys like Bernanke that walked into the Fed with Bush and still remains with Barry is a great example of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'.
IMO, people in general are quite skeptic of *any* claims from *any* party at this point when it comes to the economy, supply side, stimulus, and any other theory making the rounds. Ultimately, you get the impression that you, the citizen, are gonna get screwed regardless, and the few up top will get the cozy deals. Happened with the TARP, Obamacare, etc. and I think it's a large part of why people overall hate Congress, no matter the party.
As far as the GOP is concerned, IMO, they need to go away from stupid generalizations and dumbed down messages (like comparing the US economy with a household economy), and evolve a bit on social issues. Not full blown 'we love abortions', but at least weed out morons like Akin from the party. That'd be a good start.
The 2016 election is the GOPs to lose, IMO. But we've just seen that if they try hard enough, they lose it.
BTW, this is an article that somebody else posted in another thread and somewhat illustrates what I was saying in my previous post:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...cit-88954.html
You are an idiot if you think everything is just peachy.
They probably should have thought of this BEFORE they forced a nominee who's too stiff and deluded to win a debate, and whose off-the-record rants and verbal gaffes are destructive to the GOP's brand, tbh.....
super PAC money kept the GOP clown car rolling far longer than it would have in the pre-Citizens United era, buoying up candidates who had no realistic chance to win in the general election and draining Romney's resources in a fight with other Republicans. Had Romney been able to sew up the nomination a bit sooner, attention would have turned to Obama and away from Republican non-en ies foaming at the mouth.
The 47% video released by Jimmy Carter's grandson prob didn't help.
The debates were one of the few areas where Romney held his own with Obama. That isn't even close to the biggest reason why the Republicans lost.
Even though the Dems don't have any great candidate lined up for 2016, I still see them winning because of the direction demographics are headed and the fact the Republican candidates aren't any better. By then it'll be 4 more years of Republicans dying off, Democrats turning 18, and a bigger portion of voters being non-white. States like Ohio that used to be swing states might be solid blue by 2016.
video of Romney putting his foot in his mouth did not help. true.
At first blush, that appears to be a startlingly well thought out analysis. Had never looked at the Governor vs. National figures regarding Republican electoral success. Telling.
Willard making that idiotic 47% comment in the first place definitely didn't help....
Repugs controlling governor and legislature are able to up their states in ways they can't achieve nationally.
4 Absurd GOP Efforts to Look "Inclusive" and "Tolerant" Totally Undermined by Their Policies
1. RNC RHETORIC
“[W]e do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view. Already, there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, these issues are a gateway into whether the Party is a place they want to be.
ACTUAL POLICY
Republicans are spending millions of dollars defending the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), generally oppose federal nondiscrimination laws to protect the LGBT community and marriage equality.
2. RNC RHETORIC
“The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life. Low-income Americans are hard-working people who want to become hard-working middle-income Americans. Middle-income Americans want to become upper-middle-income, and so on. We need to help everyone make it in America.”
ACTUAL POLICY
Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, released last week, slashes the health and safety net programs that middle and lower income Americans rely on — like Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps — while proposing tax code reforms that would significantly benefit top-income earners and corporations. A recent analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concluded that the budget “would get at least 66 percent of its $5 trillion in non-defense budget cuts over ten years (relative to a continuation of current policies) from programs that serve people of limited means.” GOP governors have offered plans to axe sate corporate and personal income taxes, replacing them instead with an increase in the sales tax. Such policies would directly benefit the rich at the expense of the poor.
3. RNC RHETORIC
“We have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. We should speak out when a company liquidates itself and its executives receive bonuses but rank-and-file workers are left unemployed. We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years.”
ACTUAL POLICY
Republicans have proposed slashing the corporate tax rate just as corporate profits are skyrocketing and wages for middle and lower income Americans remain stagnant. The GOP seeks to repeal Wall Street reform and resists any efforts to tax capital gains at a higher rate, close the carried interest loophole, or raise any taxes on higher-income earners. Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, for instance, “would result in tax cuts worth an average of about $330,000 a year to households with incomes of more than $1 million a year.”
4. RNC RHETORIC
“Our candidates, spokespeople, and staff need to use language that addresses concerns that are on women’s minds in order to let them know we are fighting for them.“
ACTUAL POLICY
Republicans in Congress oppose provisions in the Affordable Care Act that provide contraception coverage to women without additional co-pays, have backed measures to allow employers to deny birth control to their female employees, voted against equal pay for equal work, and even stonewalled the Violence Against Women Act. Lawmakers on the state level have enacted numerous provisions that seek to severly restrict access to abortion services.
http://www.alternet.org/4-absurd-gop...their-policies
You say that as if Willard somehow had a realistic chance of beating Obama.... let's be real, even if Willard had run unopposed as the GOP nominee, he still would have been slaughtered in the general election, tbh.....
the kind of crap proposed in Repug states
- NORTH DAKOTA: The state is getting in on the latest anti-abortion fad sweeping the nation: so-called “heartbeat bills” that ban abortion as soon as a fetal heartbeat can be detected. North Dakota is set to pass a law that bans abortions (at its single remaining abortion clinic) after just six weeks. The law, the most stringent in the nation, is clearly uncons utional.
- TEXAS: An “avid proponent of tort reform” in the state legislature has proposed a law that will allow people to be served notice of a lawsuit through social media sites like Facebook and Twitter.
- OKLAHOMA: The Sooner State is still fighting Obamacare and just this week the Oklahoma House passed an uncons utional Obamacare “nullification” law.
- INDIANA: Newly elected Gov. Mike Pence (R) is pushing for a 10 percent cut in the state’s income tax, something which could gut investments in education and infrastructure. Even Republican legislators are wary, but the Koch Brothers front group, Americans for Prosperity is pushing the proposal.
- MISSISSIPPI: The Magnolia state, which has the highest obesity rate in the nation, passed a so-called “anti-Bloomberg” bill to prevent localities from “enacting rules that require calorie counts to be posted, that cap portion sizes, or that keep toys out of kids’ meals.”
- SOUTH CAROLINA: The Palmetto State said no to expanding Medicaid under Obamacare, which sadly is hardly a novel feat. The South Carolina GOP’s innovation was to explain its motivation for doing so was because the president is black.
- OHIO: Ohio’s radical anti-union law was overturned by a statewide referendum and its anti-voting law was headed for the same fate until the legislature preemptively repealed it on their own. Now Ohio legislators are trying to make it harder for voters to initiate referenda to overturn the radical laws passed by the GOP-controlled legislature.
- NEW HAMPSHIRE: You might think that the 13th amendment to the Cons ution is the one that banned slavery, but some Republican legislators in New Hampshire would like to tell you otherwise. They claim the “original 13th amendment” is one that banned people with les of nobility from holding office and that it was deleted by some sort of conspiracy. They aren’t taking this lying down and have introduced a bill to restore the “original” version, in order “to end the infiltration of the Bar Association and the judicial branch into the executive and legislative branches of government and the unlawful usurpation of the people’s right.”
- IOWA: An Iowa Republican wanted to ban no-fault divorces for couples with children, out of fears that easier divorces may make teenage girls “more promiscuous.” Fortunately, legislative leaders shut that whole thing down.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...sed-state-laws
lol alternet. lol echo chamber
Eight of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment in America have Republican governors.
Gerogia Governor Nathan Deal saved the state’s popular college scholarship program from bankruptcy.
Kansas Governor Sam Brownback reformed the state Medicaid program to improve and
expand services while saving the state more than $800 million over five years — without
cutting provider rates or removing people from Medicaid.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie saved retirees their pensions through pension reform,
which also resulted in taxpayers saving $120 billion over 30 years.
Ohio Governor John Kasich closed an $8 billion shortfall without raising taxes.
He revamped economic development and diversified his state’s employment base,
and Ohio’s unemployment rate has dropped steadily.
etc...etc....
Probably won't find that on alternet.
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