Green Cars Have a Dirty Little Secret

[TeyshaBlue]

That's on every "10 worst cars of all time" list I've ever read.

[DarrinS]

But 40K could get you a nice CTS -- TODAY. I can only imagine the rebadged Volt will be 60K or so. Good grief.

[TeyshaBlue]

But 40K could get you a nice CTS -- TODAY. I can only imagine the rebadged Volt will be 60K or so. Good grief.

You're missing the point again. CTS <> Electric/Hybrid. Emerging tech is always higher. Early adopters buy not so much for the immediate benefits, but to extend the developmental process as well.

[LnGrrrR]

A lot of hybrids do well. But they aren't the overpriced EV's that the OP is talking about. A Ford Fusion hybrid is only a few thousand more than it's non-hybrid counterpart. Do you really think a Chevy Volt is worth $40K?

True, but I'm assuming hybrids were slow out the gate to be adopted as well. (I could be wrong on that.)

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...994914472.html

Electric cars are promoted as the chic harbinger of an environmentally benign future. Ads assure us of "zero emissions," and President Obama has promised a million on the road by 2015.

so advertisers stretch the truth? lol

[George Gervin's Afro]

But 40K could get you a nice CTS -- TODAY. I can only imagine the rebadged Volt will be 60K or so. Good grief.

so..... is anyone making you buy one?

[DarrinS]

You're missing the point again. CTS <> Electric/Hybrid. Emerging tech is always higher. Early adopters buy not so much for the immediate benefits, but to extend the developmental process as well.

I was just pointing out that a high end vehicle like a CTS can be had for the same price as Chevy Volt.

As for your last point, I've always thought people were early adopters because the emerging tech was too cool to pass up. Can you think of another example when the sales of an emerging tech were so tepid?

[TeyshaBlue]

I was just pointing out that a high end vehicle like a CTS can be had for the same price as Chevy Volt.

As for your last point, I've always thought people were early adopters because the emerging tech was too cool to pass up. Can you think of another example when the sales of an emerging tech were so tepid?

The cool factor is probaly a player but, you're predicating this conclusion on a false premise....as if this tech development it must take place in a vacuum. Think of the economy. Think of the price of the tech. Think of your descriptor, "tepid".
Are they truly tepid considering the other factors at play? Can you contrast to a similar tech at a similar price point that is positionally redundant (after all, we already have cars that run)? If you can do that, perhaps you can use the term, "tepid".

[boutons_deux]

car mfrs need to get out of the "fuel (battery) business" just like they don't sell gasoline/diesel.

If battery modules were standardized and normalized, then you get get your "fuel" anywhere, even swapping out a discharged batter for a charged battery, rather than waiting hours to recharge.

electric cars business is still VERY PRIMITIVE, like gas cars were in the 1910s.

[DarrinS]

Can you contrast to a similar tech at a similar price point that is positionally redundant (after all, we already have cars that run)?

No, I can't.

[TeyshaBlue]

Neither can I...which is why I wouldn't characterize sales as "tepid" since that's a fairly relative term.

[Drachen]

Reminds me of ... "Cimarron, by Cadillac"

LOL, I bought one of those.... In 2005. Trust me when I say I am not being sarcastic by saying that this was the best 300 dollars I ever spent, and I can say that I used to drive a caddy. LOL

That's on every "10 worst cars of all time" list I've ever read.

Then there is this awesome fact that i wear like a badge of honor.

[MannyIsGod]

I you think it is worth it, then buy one. There's got to be SOME reason these things aren't flying off the showroom floor.

For $28K, I'm definitely not driving around in something like a Nissan MF Leaf.

I do 95% of my commuting on a train and bike combo. Both are more efficient and allow me to do work I would otherwise be unable to do while driving. When I do drive, its in a 2000 civic that gets nearly 40 miles to the gallon. It doesn't make sense for me to buy a new car until that one is done but I will likely look at an EV then. It may not make sense then either depending on my commute options.

I don't really give much thought to what the car looks like. I grew out of that when I was 24. If I was as feeble minded as you I might care, though.

[DarrinS]

I do 95% of my commuting on a train and bike combo. Both are more efficient and allow me to do work I would otherwise be unable to do while driving. When I do drive, its in a 2000 civic that gets nearly 40 miles to the gallon. It doesn't make sense for me to buy a new car until that one is done but I will likely look at an EV then. It may not make sense then either depending on my commute options.

I don't really give much thought to what the car looks like. I grew out of that when I was 24. If I was as feeble minded as you I might care, though.

Lol

[DMX7]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...994914472.html

Buck up or stay in the truck!