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    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice...-entryNineItem

    A federal appeals court on Friday ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to respond to a Freedom of Information Act request seeking do ents related to the use of drone aircraft in targeted killings overseas.

    The CIA had initially responded to the Jan. 2010 FOIA request by stating that it would neither confirm not deny the existence of any do ents at the agency related to the secret program.

    A federal judge accepted the argument and dismissed the FOIA request in Sept. 2011.

    The American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the request, appealed.

    The appeals court decision sends the case back to federal court where the CIA will be required to present a list of do ents potentially relevant to the ACLU’s request.

    The decision doesn’t mean the ACLU will necessarily gain access to any or all do ents.

    But the decision is significant in a broader way.

    “This is an important victory. It requires the government to retire the absurd claim that the CIA’s interest in the targeted killing program is a secret, and it will make it more difficult for the government to deflect questions about the program’s scope and legal basis,” ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer said, in statement.

    “It also means that the CIA will have to explain what records it is withholding, and on what grounds it is withholding them,” Mr. Jaffer said.
    More at above link.

    And good job by the ACLU.

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    Where are the Obama lovers and supporters on this?

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    ^^ They are pretending it isn't happening, or making excuses on why it has to happen, or don't even know it's happening, but if they did know, many of them still wouldn't care..




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    of course, the prospect of even minimal accountability for the government means far less to SA210 than using the issue as a club to bash the Dems.

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    of course, the prospect of even minimal accountability for the government means far less to SA210 than using the issue as a club to bash the Dems.

    Your lies just keep getting worse. While I will continue to bash the Dems for having no back-bone and for allowing such a program to proceed to begin with, and IGNORING the issue during the election for political reasons, I am first and foremost for government accountability. That's why I bash the corrupt spineless Dems. Same as I bashed Republicans when they were in the White House. But you know, keep lying, or purposely misunderstanding my point of view. Any reason to try disagreeing with me, I know.

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    the flame war and name-calling clearly come first with you; principle is a mere afterthought.

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    the flame war and name-calling clearly come first with you; principle is a mere afterthought.
    More lies Obviously your flame war continues

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    Any word from president Obombalot on this yet?

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    it'd not be considered appropriate for any president to comment on legal disputes to which the USG is a party, beyond broad expressions of agreement or disappointment.

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    lol SA210's unnecessary escalation meltdown

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    My meltdown and stalking e-grudge continues! I can't quit SA210! I can't stop my lies!!

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    the flame war and name-calling clearly come first with you; principle is a mere afterthought.

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    SA210 owned me in that other thread so badly that I must follow him around and try ruining all other threads he's in for revenge, oh wait I always do this... I report people for doing these same things. Why can't I get over this butthurt and stop my lies?!!

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    @ chump quoting someone else to notify them that he needs help, again. Keep your meltdown and e-grudge in the appropriate thread, troll. lol

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    we can't prevent other countries from deploying drones, and our present policy sets the example for their legitimate use. when we find ourselves on the receiving end of drone attacks, expect the tone to change.

    The proliferation of drone technology has moved well beyond the control of the United States government and its closest allies. The aircraft are too easy to obtain, with barriers to entry on the production side crumbling too quickly to place limits on the spread of a technology that promises to transform warfare on a global scale. Already, more than 75 countries have remote piloted aircraft. More than 50 nations are building a total of nearly a thousand types. At its last display at a trade show in Beijing, China showed off 25 different unmanned aerial vehicles. Not toys or models, but real flying machines.


    It’s a classic and common phase in the life cycle of a military innovation: An advanced country and its weapons developers create a tool, and then others learn how to make their own. But what makes this case rare, and dangerous, is the powerful combination of efficiency and lethality spreading in an environment lacking internationally accepted guidelines on legitimate use. This technology is snowballing through a global arena where the main precedent for its application is the one set by the United States; it’s a precedent Washington does not want anyone following.
    http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/ma...rones-20130321

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    NYT: Obama cites a Nixonian precedent

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    Your lies just keep getting worse. While I will continue to bash the Dems for having no back-bone and for allowing such a program to proceed to begin with, and IGNORING the issue during the election for political reasons, I am first and foremost for government accountability. That's why I bash the corrupt spineless Dems. Same as I bashed Republicans when they were in the White House. But you know, keep lying, or purposely misunderstanding my point of view. Any reason to try disagreeing with me, I know.
    what are Democratic voters supposed to do exactly? Vote for Willard Romney instead? He'd be running the same exact drone programs Obama runs but in addition would be starting a multi-trillion dollar war in Iran.

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    ^^ You mean the same war drums the current administration is also beating on Iran? The Dems could have held his feet to the fire and had a backbone, but he wears a D, so they didn't. He has already murdered at least 3 American citizens with no due process at all, that we know of, and they let him get away with it. But of course you already know all this, sellout.

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    @ chump quoting someone else to notify them that he needs help, again. Keep your meltdown and e-grudge in the appropriate thread, troll. lol
    Um, you've done the same thing dozens of times, so thanks for admitting you cry for help all the time, I guess.

    I just thought it was a good line. No help needed.
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    :yawn:

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    Drone Warfare: Neither Cheap, Nor Surgical, Nor Decisive

    www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175665/

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    Exactly

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    A 50-Point Swing Against Targeted Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._citizens.html

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