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So compe ion is not good?
They chopped each other to shreds because there was no legitimate candidate. The one that was most compelling was Ron Paul and red team shunned him. Indeed the clown car was the problem, not the production.
Back to the OP, there is no doubt that the ing clown car full of primary candidates and the endless ing primary debates hurt the Republicans. they chopped each other to shreds while Obama sat back and smirked. Most Republicans after those debates wanted a "none of the above" choice and a "restart" button.
They chopped each other to shreds because there was no legitimate candidate. The one that was most compelling was Ron Paul and red team shunned him. Indeed the clown car was the problem, not the production.
http://www.theamericanconservative.c...rand-goes-bad/The party has fallen by default into the worst caricatures of its coalition’s components. The very choice of leaders in the last election revealed how tone deaf Republicans had become: however Catholic Paul Ryan may or may not be, he’s identified in the public mind entirely with the business wing of conservatism. So was Romney, who had the added burden of religious background that he dared hardly speak of.
Meanwhile, even though it should be obvious that a business-minded GOP doesn’t want to pour effort into culture-war issues, the party has acquired a reputation for out-and-out hostility to women, minorities, and sexuals. It’s a complete botch: both the economics and the social policies of the party have been turned from strengths into weaknesses.
That’s what you get when you prioritize political technique and ideological checklists over creative engagement with ideas. It’s also what you get when you try to be someone you’re not—when a John McCain or Mitt Romney poses as a culture warrior, for example. That alienates moderate voters who might actually a like a moderate Republican candidate, even as it fails to excite right-wing activists about candidates who transparently are not the men they pretend to be. The sheer insincerity of the exercise repels yet more voters.
It also confounds the party’s ability to analyze its mistakes: moderates can say, with good reason, that McCain and Romney were too tainted by an unpopular right-wing brand, while right-wingers can say with equal justice that McCain and Romney weren’t conservatives and never expressed conservatism persuasively. One faction prescribes more moderation, the other prescribes more conservatism, and neither gets the point that the wrong kinds of moderation and conservatism together are crippling the party.
Ramesh Ponnuru thinks the premise is a weakness of the report.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ramesh-ponnuruHere’s how the report opens: “The GOP today is a tale of two parties. One of them, the gubernatorial wing, is growing and successful. The other, the federal wing, is increasingly marginalizing itself, and unless changes are made, it will be increasingly difficult for Republicans to win another presidential election in the near future.”
We have heard this a lot since the election. It’s much too optimistic. All Republican success at the gubernatorial level really tells us is that the party is doing fine in red states and did well in 2009–10. Take a look at the list of Republican governors. Every one of them was either elected in 2009–10 or in a state Romney carried or both. And what the 2009–10 experience tells us, like the elections of 1966, 1978, and 1994, is that Republicans usually do well when Democrats have control of both houses of Congress and the White House.
Maybe the federal party is too ideological and should mimic the pragmatic governors. There may well be something to that. But the fact that Republicans have 30 of the 50 governorships doesn’t tell us much, and the fact that the RNC report keeps returning to the claim that it does is not reassuring about its grasp of the party’s problem.
http://www.theamericanconservative.c...s-vietnam-212/The root of the GOP’s problem now is the same as that of the Democrats in 1969: the party’s reputation has been ruined by a botched, unnecessary war—Vietnam in the case of the Democrats, Iraq for the GOP. This may sound implausible: every political scientist knows that Americans don’t care about foreign policy; certainly they don’t vote based on it. But foreign policy is not just about foreign policy: it’s also about culture...
...Through the 1980s, both alternate Democratic brands—Johnson-style Cold War liberalism and peacenik McGovernism—were tainted by Vietnam and the war’s cultural aftershocks. The party could not shake its reputation for defeatism and radicalism merely by nominating a Southern Baptist like Jimmy Carter or an old-line laborite like Walter Mondale. And even though America had become mildly antiwar—Nixon got out of Vietnam and Reagan never launched an intervention on such a scale—it was not antiwar in a way that the Democratic Party’s left could capitalize on.
Instead the Republican Party, for all its anti-Communist rhetoric, adopted a conflict-averse Realpolitik exemplified by Nixon’s opening to China and Reagan’s negotiations with Gorbachev—maneuvers that cemented the GOP’s reputation for adult leadership among centrist voters. The long-remembered excesses of the New Left and the reality-based policies—especially foreign policy—of the Republican Party reduced Democrats to role of half-party for almost a quarter of a century.
That’s a role Republicans might have to get used to today, thanks to the Iraq War and prolonged occupation of Afghanistan. And like the Democrats of the ’70s and ’80s, Republicans of the 21st century not even begun to grapple with the magnitude of what their foreign-policy follies mean for the culture. Instead of the causes of gay rights and black power being tied to the party that started a war in Vietnam that it couldn’t finish, the causes of traditional marriage and tax cuts are now tied to a party that started wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that it couldn’t finish...
...The GOP never learned to talk to the post-Vietnam generation in the first place; over the last decade, it compounded the problem by launching wars that, far from resolving the unfinished business of the Vietnam era, only made clear that those who are refighting the conflicts of that time are oblivious to today’s realities.
While Republicans wage a war on the past, Barack Obama has staked claim to the future—in the same way that Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan once did. The reputation for competence in wielding power that Nixon (before Watergate) and Reagan ac ulated now accrues to Obama’s advantage. He brought the troops home from Iraq—however reluctantly—and is on course to end the war in Afghanistan next year. His foreign policy, like Nixon’s and Reagan’s, involves plenty of military force. But like those Republicans, the in bent Democrat has avoided debacles of the sort that characterized the administrations of Lyndon Johnson and George W. Bush.
Meanwhile, Obama is winning the culture war because that war continues to be fought by the right in the terms of the Vietnam era. That mistake, coupled with the natural credit a leader gets from keeping the country out of quagmires, gives the president’s party a tremendous advantage among the rising generation...
...The Republican Party may not be able to escape its McGovern phase, even if Democrats screw up (as they will) and we briefly get a Republican Carter. The party and the ideology soaked into it have lost their reputation for competence, and they’ve lost the emotional resonances that come with being the party of America: victory, prosperity, normality. Instead the resonances that come from the War on Terror are of a party and an era marked by resentment, recession, and insecurity. Although the party still sees Ronald Reagan when it looks in the mirror, what the rest of the country sees is George W. Bush—much as post-Vietnam Democrats continued to think of themselves as the party of Franklin Roosevelt when in the minds of most Americans they had become the party of Johnson and McGovern.
Until the Republican Party can come to grips with its failure, the Democrats will be the party Americans trust to govern.
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Uhhhh, the quotes used in your "article" there are literally in the first 10 pages of a 100 page do ent.
The person youre quoting clearly never read past that...didnt even skim past that.
I doubt boutons read it either
and you read the other 100 pages?
the point is that what RNC says and does is, which is all smokescreen bull , is totally different from what the Repug STATES are doing which is more and more extreme nuttiness, and in the case of outlawing abortion, 100% illegal. The Repugs also have bills in CONGRESS to totally defund Planned Parenthood. The Repug War on Women continues full blast.
uh oh, the Repug party's thought dictator ain't happy
Limbaugh: GOP’s ‘Autopsy’ Is Wrong
Rush Limbaugh blasted the Republican Party for saying in a new report that conservatives were “narrow-minded” and “out of touch.”
The Republican National Committee released earlier on Monday an “autopsy” of its 2012 election failures and pinned the blame on the party being out of touch with voters, particularly minorities.
Limbaugh said the opposite was true. “We are in touch with the founding of this country. We are in touch with the greatness in this country and its people,” the popular radio commentator said, according to Politico.
Limbaugh said that if the party moves away from championing values, such as traditional marriage, it will lose support among its base.
“If the party makes that [gay marriage] something official that they support, they’re not going to pull the sexual activist voters away from the Democrat Party, but they are going to cause their base to stay home and throw their hands up in utter frustration,” Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh said it was party leaders who were out of touch with its own base. “Whether they like it or not, the Republican Party’s base is sufficiently large that they cannot do without them and their problem is they don’t like them. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/li...n=widgetphase1
Works at the national level, but at the Repug (Confederate) state level, with insane gerrymandering and voter suppression, Repugs are ACTUALLY doing wonderfully.
"their problem is they don’t like them." never have never will. As dubya said to NAACP: "I value the black vote" (not black people). Repugs are the party of the 1% suckering in single-issue, ignorant bubbas with the their social issues and "Christian" hating.
No, but then again I don't pretend to be a journalist whose work would be linked by others as a source of either endorsement or criticism. Sooooo, there's that.
But I did read the first ~30 pages and skimmed the rest.
lol @ alternet and journalist used in the same sentence.
Alternet wouldn't recognize a journalist if one bit them on the ass.
I have no idea what alternet is or isnt, just simply pointing out the obvious deficiency in the article posted.lol @ alternet and journalist used in the same sentence.
Alternet wouldn't recognize a journalist if one bit them on the ass.
alternet and deficiency are synonymous.
lol. Fair enough then.
One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote
Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...minority-vote/
Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states.
LOL, so boutons goes with a thinkprogress spam next
I used a highly complicated and sophisticated equation that revealed for the first time that there are at least 253,000 cases of voter fraud a year.One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote
Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...minority-vote/
Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states.
Getting canned on women's rights
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/2...the-emotional-Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on Wednesday continued his effort to reach out to minorities and women voters by suggesting that his party had failed to win over “cultural” and “emotional” voters in 2012.
During an interview on MSNBC, guest host Luke Russert gave Priebus an opportunity to explain how the GOP could change its image if it continued to put forward budgets like the one recently offered by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), which could give millionaires a $200,000 tax cut, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.
“Look, we’re not losing the issues on the math,” the RNC chairman insisted. “We’re not losing the issues on spending and debt and jobs and the economy. Those are total winners for us.
Russert noted that former Republican Party chairman Michael Steele had recently criticized Priebus for claiming the party was reaching out to African-Americans while pushing policies like voter photo ID that tend to suppress black voters.
Recent GOP presidents ran up and kept deficits, every last one of them, and the 2013 edition of the Republican Party keeps proposing budgets that are wholly in the realm of fantasy, based both on the math and the policy.
Are you suggesting that only minorities would be affected?One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote
Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...minority-vote/
Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states.
Evidence please.
Mainly, yes, which is presicsely why Repugs/ALEC/VRWC push voter suppression hard, even in deep red states where their voter suppression and gerrymandering has given them mostly unassailble control already to turn those states into undemocratic autocracies.
besides minorities, the Brennan Center study on the probable effect of voter ID laws mentions the elderly, the sick, the impoverished and rural citizens.
http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/voter-id
So...
You agree, it's not just minorities.
lots of other people besides, yes
you want to screw them all too?
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