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    Once again our defense can't stop a last second shot. I don't understand. Do we or don't we practice defending this in practice?

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    That's right. Spurs coaching staff intentionally eliminates last-second defensive drills because they're too stressful on our guys. So we wing it come game time.

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    I really have a hard time remembering many last second shots we didn't successfully defend this season... Mo will in Utah, that 3 pointer by Toronto (I think), and today's shot... any more?

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    It was actually defended quite well. Williams just made an ice-cold move waiting on Manu to fly by him with about 2 seconds left. Most would have rushed and got it blocked or missed.

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    Spurs defended it well
    Manu needless gambling that his old creaky man bones cant pull off anymore is what broke the defense down

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    I really have a hard time remembering many last second shots we didn't successfully defend this season... Mo will in Utah, that 3 pointer by Toronto (I think), and today's shot... any more?
    Phoenix before this one, it's not that big of an issue though.. We're playing tight defense, just need to stop falling for pump fakes tbh.

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    I'll live with Marvin Williams shooting a game tying 3 tbh.

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    I'll live with Marvin Williams shooting a game tying 3 tbh.
    that too...

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    Is there statistical evidence that we defend last second shots any worse than average? Or is it just an availability heuristic?

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    Is there statistical evidence that we defend last second shots any worse than average? Or is it just an availability heuristic?
    It's a stat called KJR...

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    I'll live with Marvin Williams shooting a game tying 3 tbh.
    I will too, but not if he hits it lol..... He unfortunately did but the Spurs win so oh well.

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    I will too, but not if he hits it lol..... He unfortunately did but the Spurs win so oh well.
    Meh...Wesley Johnson, Marvin Williams, etc.

    If draft busts hit big shots against the spurs in the reg. season, so be it. call me when Thabeet hits a game winner in the WCF tbh.

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    Meh...Wesley Johnson, Marvin Williams, etc.

    If draft busts hit big shots against the spurs in the reg. season, so be it. call me when Thabeet hits a game winner in the WCF tbh.
    Yeah thats just it, bull players shoot it on us it goes in, against other teams they miss. Lets not add to the list of bs players who have hit threes against us to go to OT anytime soon. We can say what we want about the guy who hits it or the %, but he seems to hit it on the Spurs.

    Please do not say Thabeet hitting a three in the WCF, some wild crap like that will happen if we make it there.

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    Yeah thats just it, bull players shoot it on us it goes in, against other teams they miss. Lets not add to the list of bs players who have hit threes against us to go to OT anytime soon. We can say what we want about the guy who hits it or the %, but he seems to hit it on the Spurs.

    Please do not say Thabeet hitting a three in the WCF, some wild crap like that will happen if we make it there.
    Honestly I think fans of all good teams feel like this. On other forums I see them ing about the exact same thing. "[insert scrub] always goes off on us!" It does really feel like that sometimes though.

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    Yeah thats just it, bull players shoot it on us it goes in, against other teams they miss. Lets not add to the list of bs players who have hit threes against us to go to OT anytime soon. We can say what we want about the guy who hits it or the %, but he seems to hit it on the Spurs.

    Please do not say Thabeet hitting a three in the WCF, some wild crap like that will happen if we make it there.
    Happens to every team tbh. I'd venture you probably watch the Spurs more than any other team so it could seem that way. But crap players make fluke shots sometimes. It happens.

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    Manu blew it. It's a 3-point game, so he should not have double-teamed Jefferson in the first place.

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    to be fair, I'm more concerned with missing not one but two freebies in the clutch... if at least one of those goes in, this thread might not even exist, tbh

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    Honestly I think fans of all good teams feel like this. On other forums I see them ing about the exact same thing. "[insert scrub] always goes off on us!" It does really feel like that sometimes though.
    Yeah it does, seems like the Spurs have a crazy way to lose at times though when they had games won! I know they win more than lose obviously so I will take that but it seems .4 and 13 in 35 and some random crazy happens against the Spurs.
    Happens to every team tbh. I'd venture you probably watch the Spurs more than any other team so it could seem that way. But crap players make fluke shots sometimes. It happens.
    They do, I watch mainly Spurs games so yeah I see it happen alot more to the Spurs than other teams. I know other teams feel that way, but when I see a last second shot going up against us I cringe lol.

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    Why do we leave an open 3 when it's the obvious shot? Protect the 3, if any let them shoot 2. Recognizing shooters, Jefferson is inside the 3 why double team him? Also Mo Williams exploding on us again. Shouldn't Green guarding him. I remember Bowen would take Nash, CP3, Allen, whoever and get them off their game

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    It has happened 4 or 5 times this season through about 67 games so that does seem a bit high. We've had small defensive breakdowns that have given open shots on at least three of them including last night's.

    It might be something to try the foul strategy when up 3 with less than 10 seconds. Make them shoot free throws instead of getting a semi-open 3 look.

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    They do, I watch mainly Spurs games so yeah I see it happen alot more to the Spurs than other teams. I know other teams feel that way, but when I see a last second shot going up against us I cringe lol.
    I bet Cavs fans are like "how the F does Kawhi Leonard hit game winners on us? Not Parker, Ginobili, or Duncan but Kawhi Leonard??" We know what Kawhi can do but fans who only watch him two or three times a year don't.

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    to be fair, I'm more concerned with missing not one but two freebies in the clutch... if at least one of those goes in, this thread might not even exist, tbh
    Not making such a stupid defensive play is easier to correct than hitting clutch FTs, though.

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    Not making such a stupid defensive play is easier to correct than hitting clutch FTs, though.
    Disagree. Defensive breakdowns happen all the time... having an 83% FT shooter miss two freebies in a row? Not so much.

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    I bet Cavs fans are like "how the F does Kawhi Leonard hit game winners on us? Not Parker, Ginobili, or Duncan but Kawhi Leonard??" We know what Kawhi can do but fans who only watch him two or three times a year don't.
    I agree there, just seems some crazy crap will happen down the stretch! I know for a fact though missed FT's are what make it possible, so we should start there. I laugh though they get a full court pass against us and hit a fluke three to tie it, now that PHX game really had me pissed off that crap lol. You can't even fathom stuff like that at times! Atleast Kawhi's play was drawn up and perfected, some crazy crap you can't plan for.

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    I agree there, just seems some crazy crap will happen down the stretch! I know for a fact though missed FT's are what make it possible, so we should start there. I laugh though they get a full court pass against us and hit a fluke three to tie it, now that PHX game really had me pissed off that crap lol. You can't even fathom stuff like that at times! Atleast Kawhi's play was drawn up and perfected, some crazy crap you can't plan for.
    Suns' game is more of a fluke shot since they had no timeout and there was very little time left. It happened so fast as they just desperately took a shot/any shot. To prevent that loss, making free throw plays biggest role.

    Last night, Jazz has timeout and the time is long enough to make several extra passes. On the other hand, exactly because of this, Jazz was trying to execute some game-play which sometimes makes it "easier" for opponents to defend/guess. Since the offense was rational, the defense can get more clues from reading the offense.

    Marv Williams' shot itself was also a lucky one like Suns' last shot. But Spurs' defense should/could have done better than that.

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