Side note: West>>>>>>>>East.
Create:
1 (MIA)
16 (MIL) 1 (MIA)
----------- vs ------------- 1 (MIA) VS 4 (NUG) -------------- 1 (MIA) VS 2 (SA): 1 wins (MIA) (Supposedly)
8 (IND) 8 (IND)
9 (BKN)
4 (NUG)
13 (CHI) 4 (NUG)
----------- vs ----------- 4 (NUG)
6 (MEM) 6 (MEM)
11 (HOU)
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3 (OKC)
14 (BOS) 3 (OKC)
----------- vs ----------- 3 (OKC)
5 (LAC) 5 (LAC)
12 (ATL)
vs
7 (NY)
10 (GS) 7 (NY)
------------ vs ----------- 2 (SA) VS 3 (OKC) --------------- 2 (SA)
2 (SA) 2 (SA)
15 (LAL)
Last edited by naico; 03-24-2013 at 09:16 PM.
The east only has a single championship contender while the west has 5. I definitely won't be watching any eastern conference playoff series until the ECF.
East has been terrible for years.
if the western and eastern playoffs got mixed up all together then the 2nd round would probably feature 7 western teams and miami heat tbh.
The East was better than, or at least as good as the West from 2008 until 2010, tbh..
And the East has 1 contender this year, while the West has 0, tbh..
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci...%3A+Nuggets%29
George Karl been lurking?
because of this format, Heat have triple chance to repeat. and before anyone says, but East teams take Heat to 6-7. it's because Heat are playing down to compe ion, nothing more.
if it was a level field, all vs. all then Heat would still be favorite, but not by these enourmous margins. I mean, Heat having to go through Denver, Memphis and Spurs? yeah changes the landscape a bit
5 championship contenders in the West? In what sport?
Spurs, Thunder, Clippers, Grizzlies, Nuggets.
All 5 of those teams are better than every team in the east besides the Heat.
The top 6 teams each year are considered contenders. It isn't just who the top 2-3 teams are.
Being better than teams in the East doesn't make you a championship contender.
The Clippers, Grizzlies and Nuggets are not championship contenders. That's ridiculous.
That leaves the Heat, Spurs, and Thunder. And the Heat are the favorite among those 3.
The West has only 2 le contenders actually.
None tbh
Heat or Heat
Again, the best 6 teams are contenders. It isn't just the top 2-3 teams each year.
There are different levels of contenders. The ones you listed, the obvious 3 everyone lists, are the "top contenders", not the "only contenders". The Clippers, Grizzlies, and Nuggets are longshot contenders. Not likely, but reasonably possible since they're capable of beating any of the contenders in a series without having to be extremely lucky as a team like the Nets or Bulls without Rose would have to be.
What's so special about the number 6? If there's one team that's twice as good as the other 29 teams, the next 5 best teams aren't contenders simply because.
We were talking about championship contenders, so I can't see why 'levels' of contenders comes into play. There's only one level of championship contenders - that one that have a good shot at winning the le.
Can you see the Nuggets, Clipper and Grizzles beating the Heat in a 7 game series? Beating the Spurs? Thunder? Because I can't. They're no more contenders than the Knicks or Pacers out in the East, regardless of what you want to make of the supposed strength of the Western Conference.
No, but the Spurs and Thunderefs aren't beating the Heat this year either....
this is flawed. the only true contender is Miami, thus the only team to have a "reasonable" possibility of beating them is the West finalist. and the West Finalist contenders are only 2 OKC and Spurs.
so even by your logic there are at most 3 contenders.
The Heat are still gonna be the champions, that's what would happen.
Yeah I said above the Heat are the favorites. But the Spurs/Thunder are the favorites out of the West so naturally, they'd have a better chance than the other West teams just by virtue of being in the finals.
Who the made that rule? Contender is what the word suggests: Contender. As in a team that has a legit chance at contending for a le. Unless half the NBA died of AIDS, there's no way the Grizzlies or Nuggets have a chance at winning a le.
Doesn't matter. There can be only one. It will be the same one regardless.
Actually that's by your logic, because by mine (as was pointed out), more than the obvious choices can win the le, since that occaisionally does happen. You guys are too wrapped up in ESPN logic, only picking the teams from last year's Finals and one extra team who's above them in the power rankings. That isn't always how it plays out.
Just like two years ago I was one of the only people saying the Mavs were legit contenders to win. Everyone was saying no, it's Heat, Celtics, Lakers, and the Spurs and Bulls solely on merit of their records. I picked the Mavs the moment it was revealed that Manu's elbow injury was severe and would miss games because of it, and look what happened? They were the 6th strongest team who nobody was picking, and they won. It happens that way sometimes.
You're confusing yourself because you're assuming the definition of "reasonable" is synonymous with "extremely likely". Which it isn't.
Top contender are teams with very high chances.
You can still contend even if you aren't in the top 3. Or do you really think a top 2-3 team always wins the le every year? Hint: They don't. Hence, there are more contenders than just the obvious choices. These are called longshots.
Yes I can see the Nuggets, Grizzlies, or Clippers beating the Heat, Spurs, or Thunder in a series. If you can't, then maybe you should watch more basketball and grasp the concept that no team is unbeatable. Especially by a solid team.
They are much better than the Knicks and Pacers too, stop it. I can see now though why you're saying what you are. You're upset over the fact I called the east weak and devoid of any contending teams besides the Heat, and said 5 of the best 6 teams in the league were in the west. Got it.
Yeah, well there's a reason why everyone in this thread are laughing at this take.
Dumb logic is dumb logic. Needing to resort to a strawman to deflect your terrible takes is predictable.
Kidd K's arguments are lengthy but ty, like the solid thing that I throw down everytime I sit in the toilet.
Problem is that Eastern teams face Eastern teams 3-4 times while only facing Western teams1-2 time(s).
In the modern era, the 1994 Rockets, 2011 Mavs and maybe the 2004 Pistons were the only le teams that weren't top 3 favorites in the preseason, IIRC..
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