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Baynes won't play this year.
The problem with Pop and the FO is they are thinking future too much. That's why the team hasn't won since '07. They need to have the it's now or never mindset.
Baynes won't play this year.
Ah, lol.
What's a little more pathetic is still relying on Bonner and Blair to play the 4 in the playoffs because they "know the system". As if being just being the right spots prevents these midgets from getting dunked on, or somehow enables them to grab rebounds over guys taller than them.
But we've seen this before, only for Pop to panic and change his mind when they are down in a series.
How much are we paying Baynes?
You realize you talking about "relying" on the 4th and 5th big right? Lol, the Spurs would be in big trouble, if they have to rely on Blair and Bonner.
For someone who's spent so much time in this thread talking about strawman arguments, it's interesting that you throw this up here. People have been suggesting that he get Blair minutes since this thread started, and all you've done is ridicule them. When someone asked to explain how he's failed in his knowledge of the system, you criticized the poster's spelling. I missed where anyone has said that the Spurs needed Baynes to win a le this year, though if someone has said it, they're in the minority when compared to people who have done little more than express frustration that Baynes isn't getting some of Blair's minutes.
There were people saying the Spurs' chances of getting out of the first round, and by extension, their le hopes rode heavily on playing the seven-foot rookie rotting on the bench, but that was two years ago, the center was Tiago Splitter, and those people turned out to be correct.
A few weeks ago, there was an argument to be made that Baynes could be more useful than Bonner or Blair. We know Baynes can block shots. It's likely too late now, as Pop would probably rather have the number one seed than try to mess with the rotation any more than he is. Trying to integrate either De Colo or Joseph into the rotation is enough work, and certainly the higher priority at this point. The Spurs haven't made it easy for Pop to put a lot of faith in Baynes lately, as they haven't been putting distance between themselves and their opponents.
Pop would not be happy to lose a game because his rookie came in and laid an egg like Baynes did in the D league the other night. There is that danger, but if the Spurs aren't going to have Blair play in the postseason, it would have been nice to get Baynes some playing time. He hasn't looked Finleyish or Elsonish on defense at any point, and we know he's got a good motor. Getting himself kicked out of the D league game will do little to improve the team's confidence in his decision making. You can tolerate that kind of crap from Jack, but not from a rookie unless he's really contributing.
Don't pull that . You know what people on the board are referring to. Any one that sees any minutes in the playoffs is relied on on some level.
Just to change the momentum of this thread a little, i would like to see them send Patty down to get some burn, he has not seen some serious minutes in a really long time
If Neal's health is at all a question, then giving Mills some chances to keep his wind up would be a great idea.
I'm giving you , because your overanalyzing bench players that will not have a significant role in the playoffs. And if they do have a significant role, the Spurs will be in trouble. Take a look around at any teams 4th and 5th bigs, and tell me wtf you expect out of them? Your honestly going to rely on them?
You are undervaluing how quickly a playoff game can swing when a "4/5th big" comes in and gives up points/rebounds in his little ol 5-10 minutes a game. I would rather have Baynes guard javale McGee for 5-10 min in a playoff game than Blair or Bonner. You can't coach tall and wide.
its for those exact 5-10 minutes Baynes size is valuable as a 4/5th big.
^^its why pop panived and started playing splitter against Memphis, even though he wasn't "system" ready.
I'm pretty sure you're advocating the "Richard Jefferson Plan".
That was pretty much a bust. The Kawhi Leonard plan looks much better.
That being the case, I'm wondering why you're so rabidly defending a 4th or 5th big's minutes in regular season games. Why not give them to someone with a much higher upside?
Good question? I base my take on what I see, or in this case, what I don't see. Baynes being a rotation player this year.
So the championship hopes don't rest on playing Baynes this season.
Thank you.
Then why the big deal?
Yes, possible pasts play out exactly the way you want them to in fantasy land. That's the best thing about retcon championships.There were people saying the Spurs' chances of getting out of the first round, and by extension, their le hopes rode heavily on playing the seven-foot rookie rotting on the bench, but that was two years ago, the center was Tiago Splitter, and those people turned out to be correct.
And this is nowhere near Splitter level. This is a Ian Mensa-Bonimi argument.
Thanks again for saying his playing won't make a difference.A few weeks ago, there was an argument to be made that Baynes could be more useful than Bonner or Blair. We know Baynes can block shots. It's likely too late now, as Pop would probably rather have the number one seed than try to mess with the rotation any more than he is. Trying to integrate either De Colo or Joseph into the rotation is enough work, and certainly the higher priority at this point. The Spurs haven't made it easy for Pop to put a lot of faith in Baynes lately, as they haven't been putting distance between themselves and their opponents.
Pop would not be happy to lose a game because his rookie came in and laid an egg like Baynes did in the D league the other night. There is that danger, but if the Spurs aren't going to have Blair play in the postseason, it would have been nice to get Baynes some playing time. He hasn't looked Finleyish or Elsonish on defense at any point, and we know he's got a good motor. Getting himself kicked out of the D league game will do little to improve the team's confidence in his decision making. You can tolerate that kind of crap from Jack, but not from a rookie unless he's really contributing.
That's all I was looking for tbh.
Is he really defending it the way you think he is?
Is anyone?
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Time to unleash Bane on the Heat
If only.
Well we have to get the better of them inside to have any chance so there's some hope...
Maybe Pop wants to put in Bayne for a few minutes and see if he can disrupt any of the Miami bigs?
The only place anyone seems to be making that logical connection is between your ears.
The only people that can answer that question are the ones who so vehemently on anyone who suggests that Baynes should be getting some minutes. You're part of that group.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were the only one that could dredge into someone's past opinions about Splitter to discredit them in this discussion.
So you're on record saying Baynes will never be an NBA player. Good to know.
Actually, I said it's probably too late because Pop waited too long. I didn't say it wouldn't have made a difference. But since you now have said that you think Baynes will have the same impact in the NBA as Pops Mensa-Bonsu, we have something to revisit later.
You and Chump certainly seem to be passionate about something that you continue to claim is so meaningless.
Then why u mad?
Untrue. I challenge people when i see they are over their skis. they get angry.The only people that can answer that question are the ones who so vehemently on anyone who suggests that Baynes should be getting some minutes. You're part of that group.
Your anger and bias blind you to the simple fact that I was fine with the idea of playing Splitter more.Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were the only one that could dredge into someone's past opinions about Splitter to discredit them in this discussion.
Straw man?So you're on record saying Baynes will never be an NBA player. Good to know.
Really? Very disappointing and pathetic of you tbh.
Never said anything of the sort -- I was commenting on the ridiculous hype this guy is getting which was just like that of Pops and Ian in the past. People still have them putting the Spurs over the top in their retcon championship runs.Actually, I said it's probably too late because Pop waited too long. I didn't say it wouldn't have made a difference. But since you now have said that you think Baynes will have the same impact in the NBA as Pops Mensa-Bonsu, we have something to revisit later.
Baynes will be in the league for a few years. I don't know his true ceiling. From what I've seen he might not end up being much of a threat in the post because it's proving to be kind of easy to deny him the ball and he doesn't have many moves if he does get it. That could change if he learns how to use his size and strength more effectively. fortunately he does have some range on his jumper, so he at least won't get in the way of a halfcourt set and could be effective in pick and rolls.
Defensively, he's been matched up against smaller players with some perimeter skills, so it's been a process of finding the balance between defending the jumper and preventing the drive. The results have been mixed. He will certainly defend some larger players in the NBA, but if he plays with Duncan or Splitter he could certainly be put on more perimeter oriented bigs since he's probably quicker than those two. In that respect at least, the opposition and the pace of the D-League games are good for his development.
If you have a different scouting report after watching several of his D-League games, post it.
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