Why can't we defend last second shots?

[will_spurs]

Disagree. Defensive breakdowns happen all the time... having an 83% FT shooter miss two freebies in a row? Not so much.

About 3% of the time (re: your last question).

As to defensive breakdown, it wasn't a defensive breakdown. It was a boneheaded play. When up by 3, you don't leave a guy behind the 3-point line to help defend a guy who can at most score 2 points (well, unless Manu was planning to give an And-1 to AJ just to hedge himself and make sure there'd be a way Utah could tie?)

Sometimes your trolling is fun; sometimes it's really stupid. I'll let you guess which one it is this time. Hint: Manu felt he had to apologize.

[ElNono]

About 3% of the time (re: your last question).

Thanks for backing up what I said.

As to defensive breakdown, it wasn't a defensive breakdown. It was a boneheaded play. When up by 3, you don't leave a guy behind the 3-point line to help defend a guy who can at most score 2 points (well, unless Manu was planning to give an And-1 to AJ just to hedge himself and make sure there'd be a way Utah could tie?)

Never said defensive breakdowns don't include boneheaded plays.

As I said, 97% of the time Tony makes at least 1 of 2, and the defensive breakdown/boneheaded play/lucky shot doesn't matter.

This whole thing is very reminiscent of the Toronto(IIRC) game, where Manu missed a freebie and Toronto made a difficult 3 point shot with the clock going down to send it to OT.

Back then, the blame was all about Manu missing the freebie. Which is OK, but then let's apply the same standard to everyone.

Sometimes your trolling is fun; sometimes it's really stupid. I'll let you guess which one it is this time. Hint: Manu felt he had to apologize.

My trolling had a pretty good season, IMO... especially thanks to D'Antoni... but it will take a hit here or there, it's only natural, tbh...

[Splits]

Tony drilled 2 throws with 10 seconds left, otherwise we lose like the Phoenix game where Manu could t seal the win with 2.7 to play

[ElNono]

4th Quarter - Score 83-83:
02:13 Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 Missed
02:13 Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 Missed


1:44 Ginobili Layup Shot: Made

[Chris16]

Well what do ya know, it happened again tonight.

[DarrinS]

Well what do ya know, it happened again tonight.

Not horribly defended, tbh, but I think they were trying their best not to foul. And the way they were calling the game when Hardin had the ball...

[therealtruth]

Not horribly defended, tbh, but I think they were trying their best not to foul. And the way they were calling the game when Hardin had the ball...

They allow you to get away with alot at the end of the game. As long as you don't totally wipe out a guy it should be ok.

[siraulo23]

we caught a break last couple of games, not tonight tho

bosh three 3 pointers, including the clutch game winner

[Kool Bob Love]

Would rather the Spurs fail at defending clutch shoots now than in the playoffs tbh.

They will learn from tonight.

[vander]

because Matt Bonner inspires confidence in the other team

[Sean Cagney]

Would rather the Spurs fail at defending clutch shoots now than in the playoffs tbh.

They will learn from tonight.

I have heard this before, but hope they actually DO this time. We can't keep saying this over and over, and the playoffs get tougher so it will happen again if they don't fix a thing or two.

[ElNono]

we caught a break last couple of games, not tonight tho

arguably, we didn't catch a break, we defended well...

If a 25% 3 point shooter hits the gamewinner, you tip your hat and move on...

[Sean Cagney]

arguably, we didn't catch a break, we defended well...

If a 25% 3 point shooter hits the gamewinner, you tip your hat and move on...

Yep, we heard that when that bum from PHX hit that shot on us and in the Utah game! Williams just seemed to hit the shot! The thing is the lower %FG or FT shooters just seem to hit those against us! Bosh was wide open too! No need to leave him that wide open! WHY DOUBLE and then leave a guy that wide open? He will hit that shot quite a few times that wide open Nono. Forget % of the shooter, if they are that open eventually it will fall! I saw Lewis wide open too and he missed one late, Bosh missed one wide open, then he hits that one! Do not leave shooters that wide open or they will and can hit that shot.

[ElNono]

Yep, we heard that when that bum from PHX hit that shot on us and in the Utah game! Williams just seemed to hit the shot! The thing is the lower %FG or FT shooters just seem to hit those against us! Bosh was wide open too! No need to leave him that wide open! WHY DOUBLE and then leave a guy that wide open? He will hit that shot quite a few times that wide open Nono. Forget % of the shooter, if they are that open eventually it will fall! I saw Lewis wide open too and he missed one late, Bosh missed one wide open, then he hits that one! Do not leave shooters that wide open or they will and can hit that shot.

You can argue it was a up, but I'll have Bosh burning me from 3 rather than Ray Allen 100 times out of 100 times. And Tim did contest that 3. Spurs shouldn't have have allowed the game to get to that situation to begin with, but that's a different story.

[Sean Cagney]

You can argue it was a up, but I'll have Bosh burning me from 3 rather than Ray Allen 100 times out of 100 times. And Tim did contest that 3. Spurs shouldn't have have allowed the game to get to that situation to begin with, but that's a different story.

That shot looked wide open to me! Atleast get near him, he might have ran at him late but he had a dead eye shot at it. I agree with you though, that game should have never been close, but it was and they let it get that close and lost it at home. That loss will come back to haunt us IMO, that was not a good loss and this week is tough so we can be in #2 by the end of the week.

[ElNono]

That shot looked wide open to me! Atleast get near him, he might have ran at him late but he had a dead eye shot at it. I agree with you though, that game should have never been close, but it was and they let it get that close and lost it at home. That loss will come back to haunt us IMO, that was not a good loss and this week is tough so we can be in #2 by the end of the week.

Looks like a good contest to me...

No loss is a good loss, IMO

[Russ]

It's hard to defend a 6-11 guy shooting three-pointers at the buzzer.

When a 6-11 guy who has hit 16 threes all year (in 69 games) goes 3-5 from three in one game, it's just not your night.

Just get em next time.

[T Park]

i debated Ian Doughtery at Air Alamo.com on twitter about this post game, and he argued it was the better percentage shot to give up what with Haslem had a wide open shot near the basket.

I argued I would've taken that over the three, or, had Duncan played closer, mightve forced Bosh into a worse shot.

I dont know. Ian however is most likely right and that it was just a damn good shot by Bosh, you tip your cap, you move onto against Memphis.

[Sean Cagney]

Looks like a good contest to me...

No loss is a good loss, IMO

He was wide open man, Tim ran at him! That was not contested! This is Prince running at Horry in 05 here, he was open and then someone tried to close the damn gap and ran at him! That is all that was, he was wide open to look at it and aim. This was not a good contest Nono, sorry he was wide open to dead aim that one, this just further proves it, Sean Elliott says it as well too.

It's hard to defend a 6-11 guy shooting three-pointers at the buzzer.

When a 6-11 guy who has hit 16 threes all year (in 69 games) goes 3-5 from three in one game, it's just not your night.

Just get em next time.

We are done against this team this year IMO, we will not see them again.

[ElNono]

The reality is that if one of Green or Tiago don't close down on Ray Allen and he sinks the 3 pointer, we would've never heard the end of it... including Tiago and Green from Pop... all things considered, Bosh making that shot I can live with. There's twenty other things to fret about in this game.

[ElNono]

He was wide open man, Tim ran at him! That was not contested! This is Prince running at Horry in 05 here, he was open and then someone tried to close the damn gap and ran at him! That is all that was, he was wide open to look at it and aim. This was not a good contest Nono, sorry he was wide open to dead aim that one, this just further proves it, Sean Elliott says it as well too.

I'll disagree on that. Against a 6'11 guy, that's probably as good as you're going to get as far as contesting... You don't want to jump at him and foul a 25% 3pt shooter. Tim did the right thing... hand up, and if he makes it you tip your hat.

[Russ]

We are done against this team this year IMO, we will not see them again.

Give the Heat some credit. I think they make it out of the East.

[Sean Cagney]

The reality is that if one of Green or Tiago don't close down on Ray Allen and he sinks the 3 pointer, we would've never heard the end of it... including Tiago and Green from Pop... all things considered, Bosh making that shot I can live with. There's twenty other things to fret about in this game.

How about our O going completely dead in the last minute again and the ISO! Thats what concerns me, period. This is not new either, it has happened now for a while. Watch the games and you will see more of it.

Give the Heat some credit. I think they make it out of the East.

Heat are not the problem here, the Spurs....... I will leave it there.

[T Park]

Sean first off you argue the defense against the shot was bad, then you say well well what about the offense.

two different arguments. The offense struggles when they stop moving the ball. When parker got hedged and doubled he held onto the ball trying to make things happen instead of splitting the defenders and working the ball around.

Now, is the last two weeks concerning? Yes and no. Yes the offense bogging down, however, the defense on last second shots played well vs Miller and Chris Paul especially. Tony Parker played that absolutely 10000% perfect.

[Sean Cagney]

Sean first off you argue the defense against the shot was bad, then you say well well what about the offense.

two different arguments. The offense struggles when they stop moving the ball. When parker got hedged and doubled he held onto the ball trying to make things happen instead of splitting the defenders and working the ball around.

Now, is the last two weeks concerning? Yes and no. Yes the offense bogging down, however, the defense on last second shots played well vs Miller and Chris Paul especially. Tony Parker played that absolutely 10000% perfect.

The O has been bad since I started watching alot down the stretch lately, thats what I see! They go stale and as you said just stall! How many teams can see that and do the same to us? That is a concern! This team when peaking this year was alot better, it seems the last month they have really fallen off! Concerning. There was no D on that last shot though TBH, Tim WAS NOT on him, he ran out to get a hand up on him after he got a look and shot it! That is not good D! That is running out there to put a hand up. That last second D by Parker was a foul the other night! Yes as a Spurs fan that was a foul! The Clips got away with alot though so that offset that, but that was a foul by Tony good D or not he hit him.

The D on Miller though that was great, yes they did play great on that there I agree. The O is my concern namely down the stretch, they beat the Nuggets after choking again down the stretch and Clippers the other night as well with Tims shot! Other than that they choke down the stretch and did it again tonight! A minute is coming and they see it and just go re and the bed. I am concerned, sorry.