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    y Dirky has his "rights" with which goes no responsibility to anyone or anybody, the standard fantasy of right wingers.

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    y Dirky has his "rights" with which goes no responsibility to anyone or anybody, the standard fantasy of right wingers.
    lol..this is why nobody takes you seriously, re .

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    It's a ing bbs...nobody has "rights".

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    How is this piece of not banned already?

    why does this n!gger post on a spurs forum?

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    Die in a fire, Gasol.

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    They have all rights permitted by the BBS owners

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    It wouldn't be so bad if the large generations would have paid their own way instead of piling up debt and sailing off into the en lement sunset.
    There was an interesting article about the amount of money current seniors paid in, versus what they can expect to take out. Hint: it rhymes with "mess".

    Don't ever let anyone over 60 say that they fully paid for their benefits.

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    There was an interesting article about the amount of money current seniors paid in, versus what they can expect to take out. Hint: it rhymes with "mess".

    Don't ever let anyone over 60 say that they fully paid for their benefits.
    Was it this one?

    More worrying is that this generation seems to be able to leverage its size into favourable policy. Governments slashed tax rates in the 1980s to revitalise lagging economies, just as boomers approached their prime earning years. The average federal tax rate for a median American household, including income and payroll taxes, dropped from more than 18% in 1981 to just over 11% in 2011. Yet sensible tax reforms left less revenue for the generous benefits boomers have continued to vote themselves, such as a prescription-drug benefit paired with inadequate premiums. Deficits exploded. Erick Eschker, an economist at Humboldt State University, reckons that each American born in 1945 can expect nearly $2.2m in lifetime net transfers from the state—more than any previous cohort.
    http://www.economist.com/node/21563725

    And man, I want to apologize because I know I pissed you off about the population thing a couple months back. Went about that in a bad way. Regardless hope things are well.

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    There was an interesting article about the amount of money current seniors paid in, versus what they can expect to take out. Hint: it rhymes with "mess".

    Don't ever let anyone over 60 say that they fully paid for their benefits.
    You mean it's not the dark people who are the biggest drivers of deficits and debts, but old white people?

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    There was an interesting article about the amount of money current seniors paid in, versus what they can expect to take out. Hint: it rhymes with "mess".

    Don't ever let anyone over 60 say that they fully paid for their benefits.
    the big problem is not under-contributions, or living longer, and greedy boomers,

    but the vampire-squid health care sector overcharging, sucking wealth out of every income level.

    When Medicare and Medicaid were created, look at where the health care cost per capita were, eg about 1970:

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...sts+per+capita

    That's for-profit vampire squid sucking, not health care. And US gets worse outcomes on many measures than non-profit "socialized" national health care in other industrial countries.

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    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury.
    America is an irresponsible electorate.

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    why does this n!gger post on a spurs forum?
    The same Spurs forum owned and administered by a black guy, you mean?

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    Blaming lowered tax rates on boomers starting with 1%-useful-idiot St Ronnie in the 1980s is the wrong culprit, and its buying into 1%-financed lies, which reduce to "the problems and causes are everywhere else except with us 1%-ers".

    It's not left vs right, young vs old, it's 1% vs 99%. The wealthy class vs everybody else, Economic Class Warfare.

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    Was it this one?



    http://www.economist.com/node/21563725

    And man, I want to apologize because I know I pissed you off about the population thing a couple months back. Went about that in a bad way. Regardless hope things are well.
    The apology was mine to make, as it was my misunderstanding of what you were saying that made me mad. Been meanign to PM, but heck this is as good a place as any to express that. I have also been meanidn to get back to it at some point, as it is a good conversation to have.

    THe article le was "you didn't pay for it" and it was a blog at the economist, if memory serves. Times more than up, and I need to get going, but it can probably be found using a searach with htose keywords.

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    the big problem is not under-contributions, or living longer, and greedy boomers,

    but the vampire-squid health care sector overcharging, sucking wealth out of every income level.

    When Medicare and Medicaid were created, look at where the health care cost per capita were, eg about 1970:

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...sts+per+capita

    That's for-profit vampire squid sucking, not health care. And US gets worse outcomes on many measures than non-profit "socialized" national health care in other industrial countries.
    Again, you are probably more right about that than the free marketeers would like to admit to.

    You should read this as well, about our own McAllen Texas:
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2..._fact_gawande#


    Really really good article. I have to interview an HMO CEO within the next month or so, and some of the concepts I will be asking her will be rather directly drawn from this article.

    FWIW, if anybody has any questionst they might want someone to ask of an HMO CEO, post it here. If they are sort of appropriate to ask, I will fit them into the conversation.

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