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    your omission of Parker as another player whom without we'd be in the lottery means only
    Numbers simply back it up... Parker only major lead on Duncan is on assists (as expected)... (45% vs 17%)

    http://stats.nba.com/teamPlayers.htm...&sortOrder=DES

    Everything else is pretty much evenly distributed: points, usage, fga, fgm...

    Obviously Duncan leads Tony by a wide margin on blocks and rebounds... you know, that defensive improvement that's been the staple of this season.

    Basically, Duncan matches TP on offensive production, usage, etc AND provides the defensive backbone.

    Just facts here, no hyperbole.

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    so because our PG doesn't lead the team in rebounds and blocks therefore he is not our MVP


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    Keep pretending you didn't ignore 3/4 of that post and the stats that back it up... crofl

    We can go back to opinion if facts make you uncomfortable, tbh

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    Keep pretending duncan can play 40 mpg

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    Tony isn't playing 40mpg either, neither was he playing 40mpg last playoffs

    Duncan pretty much matches Parker scoring and usage even with reduced minutes... per the stats you didn't look at.

    Let me know when facts start to get too embarrassing, and I'll stop, tbh

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    Ray Allen dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bosh pops open at the top, Allen passes back to Chris Bosh at the top. Game winner.
    Tony Parker dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bonner pops open at the top. Parker shoots contested bank shot. No good.

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    Ray Allen dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bosh pops open at the top, Allen passes back to Chris Bosh at the top. Game winner.
    Tony Parker dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bonner pops open at the top. Parker shoots contested bank shot. No good.
    So the good solution was Bonner shooting a high pressure 3pts attempts?
    Seems like a no brainer!

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    solid & nono are right

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    So the good solution was Bonner shooting a high pressure 3pts attempts?
    Seems like a no brainer!
    Bosh 3G %age is 29% career

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    Without Parker and his "hero ball", Spurs would be a lottery team. But yeah, whatever...
    Spurs wouldn't be as good as they are without Parker but they wouldn't be a lottery team. They would still be a playoffs team, probably even a 50+ wins team.

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    And lol at this thread, do you remember back in the good old days when everything in clutch situation was "4 down" every possesion or some years later Manu at the top of the key? Spurs coaching on clutch situations hasn't change much, tbh.

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    Ray Allen dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bosh pops open at the top, Allen passes back to Chris Bosh at the top. Game winner.
    Tony Parker dribbles to the left wing around a ball screen, draws double team, Bonner pops open at the top. Parker shoots contested bank shot. No good.
    The old basketball adage is that an uncontested shot is better, and has a higher probability percentage, than a contested shot. Yet we're talking Bonner here. Even when he's open, all his shots are contested because of his mental midgetry. It's clear that Parker didn't make the right basketball play in that situation, yet I believe it's because he doesn't trust they guy in that situation. I can't say as I blame Parker, which is why Bonner shouldn't have been on the floor in that situation.

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    The old basketball adage is that an uncontested shot is better, and has a higher probability percentage, than a contested shot. Yet we're talking Bonner here. Even when he's open, all his shots are contested because of his mental midgetry. It's clear that Parker didn't make the right basketball play in that situation, yet I believe it's because he doesn't trust they guy in that situation. I can't say as I blame Parker, which is why Bonner shouldn't have been on the floor in that situation.
    Agree. Pop's lack of being able to understand the psychological aspects of the game explains that. It explains why he's trotted Bonner out there for several seasons. He must obviously believe the percentages will eventually even out. There's a lot more that goes into whether a player can hit a shot than whether their open and their career 3pt percentage.

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    Can anyone seriously imagine how this forum would have erupted if Tony had indeed passed out of the double team to a Bonner three point attempt? The odds are that Bonner would have missed, given his performance under pressure in the past. Then posters here would have had two responses: "What a terrible terrible decision by Parker to pass it to the one guy that everybody knows isn't going to deliver under pressure"; and/or "That chicken Tony couldn't take the heat of the double team and gave up the ball, even when he knew that he was the only one left on the floor with a good percentage shooting night".

    So, unless the ball goes in and we win, Tony was going to take the blame. Such is the nature of fandom on this forum.

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    Can anyone seriously imagine how this forum would have erupted if Tony had indeed passed out of the double team to a Bonner three point attempt? The odds are that Bonner would have missed, given his performance under pressure in the past. Then posters here would have had two responses: "What a terrible terrible decision by Parker to pass it to the one guy that everybody knows isn't going to deliver under pressure"; and/or "That chicken Tony couldn't take the heat of the double team and gave up the ball, even when he knew that he was the only one left on the floor with a good percentage shooting night".

    So, unless the ball goes in and we win, Tony was going to take the blame. Such is the nature of fandom on this forum.
    Doesn't matter. It was the correct basketball play to make. You CoTers just won't quit, will you?

    I'd rather have a shaky Bonner shoot a wide open three than have Parker fade away with a man in his face (with almost NO chance of going in).

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    Can anyone seriously imagine how this forum would have erupted if Tony had indeed passed out of the double team to a Bonner three point attempt? The odds are that Bonner would have missed, given his performance under pressure in the past. Then posters here would have had two responses: "What a terrible terrible decision by Parker to pass it to the one guy that everybody knows isn't going to deliver under pressure"; and/or "That chicken Tony couldn't take the heat of the double team and gave up the ball, even when he knew that he was the only one left on the floor with a good percentage shooting night".

    So, unless the ball goes in and we win, Tony was going to take the blame. Such is the nature of fandom on this forum.
    Nothing against Tony at all. But if LeBron can pass, so does Tony.

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    That's why I said Tony and the team are in their best when Tony keeps the option open.

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