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    of course not, but the pictures are always appreciated
    as designed. this was counted on.

    you got the message in spite of your bad self. so did I.

    and whoever forgets the message may still remember the pictures.

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    They'll oogle while giving her fifty lashes for her debauchery.

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    women protest the plight of muslim women being treated like chattel; flash they ties in public; men in turn oogle at said ties, and in turn, objectify women. am I the only one picking up on the irony?
    what irony? the ties don't belong to the men.

    deliberately using ties to magnify the political message? seems kinda manipulative; is certainly effective.

    otoh, they're just ties -- what's the big deal?

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    I love ties as much as the next guy. And the point I'm making isn't a big deal. But the sense I'm getting is that the dudes here (and in Europe too) are more caught up with the ties then the message because, well, they're ties.

    They're attention s trying to make a political message. The medium they're using drowns out the message.

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    Clearly, these s are concerned with the plight of muslim women and not showing their s at any chance they get to protest the cause celebre in vogue that day ...

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    They're attention s trying to make a political message. The medium they're using drowns out the message.
    prediction?

    maybe. remains to be seen.

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    But I guess we're ok with white people running around saying the Islamists (whatever Islamist means) so long as they got ties, amirite?

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    Clearly, these s are concerned with the plight of muslim women and not showing their s at any chance they get to protest the cause celebre in vogue that day ...
    s?

    implies a cash nexus. but clearly, that's one way to get an interview.

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    well, of the attention variety at least

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    But I guess we're ok with white people running around saying the Islamists (whatever Islamist means) so long as they got ties, amirite?
    I'm ok with people saying whatever they want. this is an unmoderated forum.

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    That's a convenient response

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    well, of the attention variety at least
    you're magnifying it. you just posted ties linked to political activism.

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    That's a convenient response
    also, true

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    Thinking that I can persuade most people that these es are attention s is a losing battle. I don't think I'm magnifying anything in that regard.

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    Thinking that I can persuade most people that these es are attention s is a losing battle.
    probably not, tbh

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    being an attention is incidental to being correct or incorrect, correct?

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    I dunno. But, why's that matter?

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    I can't speak to generalities. If you wanna re-ask your question as applied here, go for it ...

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    so, so what if they're attention s, and that's even better: they're willing to risk their reputations for a cause.

    what's your take on the cause?

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    I dunno. But, why's that matter?
    why does it matter so much that you called them s unconditionally in a public forum?

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    sure, you walked it back like a good boy . . .

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    Well, I have two general problems:

    1. I think that these s are more concerned with flashing their s for attention than the underlying issue at cause;

    2. I think their message is highly inconsistent; as a group opposed to (gender) hierarchies ("FEMEN - is the name of the scandal famous organization of topless women activists, who defend with their breast sexual and social equality in the world;" from their website), I wonder why they adopt a borderline neo-conservative message ( the Islamists, your Morals). They've adopted a colonizing at ude towards the culture and religion of the orient (let's flash our ties so they change; or, we don't care if they change, let's just flash our ties which only reinforces #1). It shows a severe lack of thought for a group ostensibly concerned with equality to take such a position.

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    the solidarity is neato, but flashing your ty in the capitols of Europe ain't gonna get it done.
    It gets international attention, which is exactly their point.

    Religions, all of them, makes you stupid and full of hate and vengeance.

    And ALL RELIGIONS have always been men's hustle to oppress women as secondary humans.

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    why does it matter so much that you called them s unconditionally in a public forum?
    Because they're s and this is discourse.

    Why does it matter so much for you to ask me why I call them s, in a public forum?

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    Religions, all of them, makes you stupid and full of hate and vengeance.
    Who knew you were so religious?

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