NBA: If there's one thing Spursfan and Mavsfan can agree on...

[monosylab1k]

How did a prime KG defensive beast get ing raped by dirk head to head?

his supporting cast it's always his ty supporting cast

*cough*until you compare him to Duncan then magically supporting cast arguments go out the window*cough*

[monosylab1k]

Leave it to mavfan to compare KGs casts in Minny to what Dirk has had in Dallas, even what Dirk has this year is better than what KG ever had other than '04. ing homers.

Instead of just comparing one similar player why dont you post the entire rosters ?

37 year old Mike James >>>>>> 30 year old Mike James the ty ing supporting cast

[FkLA]

How did a prime KG defensive beast get ing raped by dirk head to head?

Dirk is an offensive machine that that would torch the best of them (and then fall flat on his face later on), but that doesnt make him a better basketball player. You can call him the better offensive player if you want and I wont say about that.

[Samuel Eto'o]

I just toured UTSA last week. Its actually a great place. I could see how somehow like FkLA could really benefit from its teachings.

[Prime KG]

Dirk is an offensive machine that that would torch the best of them (and then fall flat on his face later on), but that doesnt make him a better basketball player. You can call him the better offensive player if you want and I wont say about that.

Then why couldn't I dominate Dirk's ty defense on the other end??? I know, it was that dominating help defense from Nash or LaFrentz!

[FkLA]

I just toured UTSA last week. Its actually a great place. I could see how somehow like FkLA could really benefit from its teachings.

Dirk is the 5th best PF all-time, maybe 4th. Not my fault just the way is tbh.

[FkLA]

Head to Head:
Dirk (19 wins)-23.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.1 apg, 0.8 bpg , 47 FG%
KG (16 wins)-22.7 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.2 bpg, 52 FG%

But yeah lets cherry pick one playoff series were Wally was his sidekick. Reminds me of how yall homers cherry pick his rpg in the playoffs to argue that hes actually an elite rebounder.

[Lincoln]

So now regular season means everything over playoffs? Lol

[Lincoln]

How can you bring up dirk choking in the playoffs when you just disregarded the playoff head to head


Lmao move the goalposts

[FkLA]

No, those numbers are regular season and playoffs combined. Seems more fair than to just cherry pick a series and use it as your only argument.

[Prime KG]

How can you bring up dirk choking in the playoffs when you just disregarded the playoff head to head


Lmao move the goalposts

Swap me for Dirk and the Mavs would dominate everybody except San Antonio.

[Phillip]

But yeah lets cherry pick one playoff series were Wally was his sidekick. Reminds me of how yall homers cherry pick his rpg in the playoffs to argue that hes actually an elite rebounder.

Actually, it's more so the fact that his defensive rebounding % is quite high. The only thing he lacks in is offensive rebounding, mainly because he plays out so much on the perimeter. But its a known fact that he has always been a fantastic defensive rebounder.

[DPG21920]

Actually, it's more so the fact that his defensive rebounding % is quite high. The only thing he lacks in is offensive rebounding, mainly because he plays out so much on the perimeter. But its a known fact that he has always been a fantastic defensive rebounder.

Fantastic is a bit of hyperbole.

[nowhereman523]

Garnett's "advantage" is his defense, yet his defense can't and never could do against Nowitzki.

being considered a top 5 PF and not even making the all NBA third team in your prime

[Prime KG]

Garnett's "advantage" is his defense, yet his defense can't and never could do against Nowitzki.

being considered a top 5 PF and not even making the all NBA third team in your prime

but my supporting cast sucked!

[nowhereman523]

No, those numbers are regular season and playoffs combined.

lying about what stats you posted
not including playoff stats but including games from Dirk's rookie year
giving up 37/15/3 and losing at home in game 7 to "the 5th best PF of all time" with no other allstars on his team
being an idiot

[monosylab1k]

lying about what stats you posted
not including playoff stats but including games from Dirk's rookie year
giving up 37/15/3 and losing at home in game 7 to "the 5th best PF of all time" with no other allstars on his team
being an idiot

i just looked up the stats. Fkla lying his ass off thinking nobody would fact check his bull

[Lincoln]

lying about what stats you posted
not including playoff stats but including games from Dirk's rookie year
giving up 37/15/3 and losing at home in game 7 to "the 5th best PF of all time" with no other allstars on his team
being an idiot

nowhereman goin HAM

[Samuel Eto'o]

Dirk is the 5th best PF all-time, maybe 4th. Not my fault just the way is tbh.

Thats cool. But back to UTSA. While I was touring I noticed they had enrolled a lot of Mexicans such as yourself. But talking to them they actually surprised me with their intelligence. Definitely smarter than the average stereotypical Mexican you see wearing a wet white t-shirt at Six Flags.

Still not as smart as the average white, black, or asian man, but pretty smart. Glad yall found a place to better yourself.

[FkLA]

Nah, that was an honest mistake wasnt intentional. I just scrolled through the basketball-reference page and saw the playoff games were at the bottom and figured they were included without bothering to make sure. Regardless the numbers wouldnt change dramatically though tbf...since its just a 3 games that were being omitted.

[FkLA]

Thats cool. But back to UTSA. While I was touring I noticed they had enrolled a lot of Mexicans such as yourself. But talking to them they actually surprised me with their intelligence. Definitely smarter than the average stereotypical Mexican you see wearing a wet white t-shirt at Six Flags.

Still not as smart as the average white, black, or asian man, but pretty smart. Glad yall found a place to better yourself.

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[Blake]

I've heard there is a Taco Cabana on UTSA campus now.

A fine way to bridge the intercultural gap, imo.

[Phillip]

Fantastic is a bit of hyperbole.

Is it really?

Consider some of the greatest Forwards and Centers to ever play the game. Everyone on this list was generally remembered as a fantastic rebounder, or put up some very good rebounding stats.

Dirk has a career DRB% of 22, 24.6 in the playoffs, and a career of 7 DRPG per 36 minutes, 7.6 in the playoffs.

Dirk - 21.9/24.6, 7/7.6
David Robinson - 23.4/24.3, 7.8/7.6
Charles Barkley - 23.7/25.6, 7.6/8.0
Hakeem Olajuwon - 23.8/22.4, 7.9/7.2
Moses Malone - 23.2/23.8, 7.6/7.5
Larry Bird - 22.4/21.4, 7.5/6.9
Karl Malone - 23.5/23.3, 7.5/7.1
Patrick Ewing - 24.7/25.6, 7.9/7.6
Chris Webber - 20.9/17.9, 6.8/5.9
Shaquille O'Neal - 23.6/23.4, 7.6/7.3
Pau Gasol - 20.1/19.6, 6.4/6.1
Bob McAdoo - 21.8/20.2, 7.7/7.0
Tim Duncan - 26.6/25.7, 8.5/8.1
Kevin Garnett - 25.7/26.2, 8.1/8.1

Of note - Dirk and Charles Barkley are the only players on this list who's numbers increased in the playoffs in both categories, while everyone else had decreases in one or both (except KG who stood pat in DRPG per 36).

Also, Dirk was 5th out of these players in DR% in the playoffs, and tied for 3rd in DRPG-per 36 in the playoffs. There are 14 players listed in total here. Not to shabby.

I'd say its very fair to consider Dirk a fantastic defensive rebounder, especially considering he is a perimeter oriented player, and very rarely played the the C position, while many of these players (aside from Bird and Barkley) frequently played at the C position, or was entirely known as a center.

[monosylab1k]

Is it really?

Consider some of the greatest Forwards and Centers to ever play the game. Everyone on this list was generally remembered as a fantastic rebounder, or put up some very good rebounding stats.

Dirk has a career DRB% of 22, 24.6 in the playoffs, and a career of 7 DRPG per 36 minutes, 7.6 in the playoffs.

Dirk - 21.9/24.6, 7/7.6
David Robinson - 23.4/24.3, 7.8/7.6
Charles Barkley - 23.7/25.6, 7.6/8.0
Hakeem Olajuwon - 23.8/22.4, 7.9/7.2
Moses Malone - 23.2/23.8, 7.6/7.5
Larry Bird - 22.4/21.4, 7.5/6.9
Karl Malone - 23.5/23.3, 7.5/7.1
Patrick Ewing - 24.7/25.6, 7.9/7.6
Chris Webber - 20.9/17.9, 6.8/5.9
Shaquille O'Neal - 23.6/23.4, 7.6/7.3
Pau Gasol - 20.1/19.6, 6.4/6.1
Bob McAdoo - 21.8/20.2, 7.7/7.0
Tim Duncan - 26.6/25.7, 8.5/8.1
Kevin Garnett - 25.7/26.2, 8.1/8.1

Of note - Dirk and Charles Barkley are the only players on this list who's numbers increased in the playoffs in both categories, while everyone else had decreases in one or both (except KG who stood pat in DRPG per 36).

Also, Dirk was 5th out of these players in DR% in the playoffs, and tied for 3rd in DRPG-per 36 in the playoffs. There are 14 players listed in total here. Not to shabby.

I'd say its very fair to consider Dirk a fantastic defensive rebounder, especially considering he is a perimeter oriented player, and very rarely played the the C position, while many of these players (aside from Bird and Barkley) frequently played at the C position, or was entirely known as a center.

Dirk only got rebounds because his supporting cast was so good

[monosylab1k]

Regardless the numbers wouldnt change dramatically though tbf...since its just a 3 games that were being omitted.

except those were three games where Dirk ing curbstomped KG.

Omit KG's three best games against Dirk too and we'll call it even, oh wait that would ruin your ty take even further.