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I don't see anyone better but clearly Duncan > Dirk then it's an open as to whoever is next because nobody comes close to those two
I don't know where you're going with this one. Webber was better for like 1-2 years in Dirk's early years.
Derrick Coleman was actually better than Tim Duncan until he got old and stuff
I don't see anyone better but clearly Duncan > Dirk then it's an open as to whoever is next because nobody comes close to those two
except those were three games where Dirk ing curbstomped KG.
Omit KG's three best games against Dirk too and we'll call it even, oh wait that would ruin your ty take even further.
Go ahead and omit KGs three best games as well then post the stats, disphit. The averages arent going to drastically change when youre averaging 35 games and only omitting three. KG actually outplayed Dirk in Game 2 of that series btw.
Well C-Webbs knee gave out in the 2003 playoffs and was never the same, so sure it wasnt very long he was better than Dirk. Pretty sure he was 1st or 2nd team All-NBA the previous five years until that happened though. It wasnt just a case of him suddenly aging, without the injury Dirk wouldve been battling with CWebb for the 3rd spot...KG and TD were in a league of their own tbh.
Derrick Coleman was actually better than Tim Duncan until he got old and stuff
The thing is that Dirk broke out later after TD and KG had already established themselves.
Timmy was in the playoffs on a 56 win team in his rookie season. Dirk needed to wait and get something going with Nash and Finley before doing stuff, and even then they had the same W-L record as the 2003 Spurs.
So are you saying if Dirk wasnt so perimeter oriented he would also be an elite offensive rebounder? Does someone like Chuck, who also spent some time out on the perimeter, have poor stats in offensive rebounding as well (since thats the only reason Dirk isnt a great offensive rebounder right)? Why is a small forward like Bird on this list too and worst of all why does Dirk have a lower defensive rebounding % than him.
Dirk's value wasn't in his rebounding (though tbf he's not Brook Lopez) but in his super efficient shooting.
Barkley was a better rebounder than Timmy despite having the height of a swingman.
Dirk was a twenty point scorer pretty early in his career and they made the playoffs pretty early too. Remember Juwan Howard in 2001? He was regarded as a unique player with a great offensive game, but again noone in their right put them in the same class as KG and TD. CWebb wasnt even with them since he was nowhere the defensive force those two players were. 20 ppg scorers that also happen to be all-time greats on D>great scorers like Dirk. I dont see why its so hard to grasp tbh.
Actually KG had it worse since he never really enjoyed any success with Minny early on, he was just highly regarded because his game spoke for itself.
I agree but these s will argue with you till theyre blue in the face that Dirk was an elite rebounder.
KG won a well-deserved MVP when the Wolves found some money to pay vets like Sprewell and ET Cassell.
The rest of his Wolves career the team found itself bogged down by his monster contract and the fact that they forfeited draft picks due to the whole Joe Smith fiasco. Then again those picks were in the late 20s, but had they kept those picks they could have gotten Arenas, Parker or something.
So in other words, you have nothing other than a ty argument?So are you saying if Dirk wasnt so perimeter oriented he would also be an elite offensive rebounder? Does someone like Chuck, who also spent some time out on the perimeter, have poor stats in offensive rebounding as well (since thats the only reason Dirk isnt a great offensive rebounder right)? Why is a small forward like Bird on this list too and worst of all why does Dirk have a lower defensive rebounding % than him.
What a surprise.
Yep. The fact that he didnt have an owner willing to throw money around like Cubes probably didnt help him either.
Dont tell that to these dumb s though, KG couldnt make any noise with Minny because he wasnt any good...he needed Pierce, Allen, and Rondo to carry him to a le. Plus Dirk outplayed him 2 out of the 3 games in 2002 so that makes him better!! Who gives a if KG is a career 20 ppg scorer who also happens to be one of the best defensive big men of all-time.
Answer my questions...
Rondo wasn't THAT important in their le run. Pierce won 24 games the year before too, and the Sonics traded away Allen because they were gonna rebuild (and relocate) anyway.
Ill put it like this: Kevin Love or Dwight Howard who do you take ?
KLove is clearly the more potent offensive player but only a re with take him over Dwight tbh. Love is crazy good rebounder too, imagine if he routinely averaged less than 10 rpg. Not trying to say Love is as good as Dirk or even that Dwight is as good as KG...just using an example of why it makes no sense to take Dirk over a dominant two way player like KG.
Has Love ever HAD a winning season?
Scratch that, when was the last time the Wolves had a winning season? Back when KG won MVP.
Im out though. Tired of trying to help re ed homers see the light tbh.
I saw no questions. I simply saw stupid bull , which is the norm for a got who got kicked out of UTSA for grades.
Considering its basically the entire forum vs you, perhaps you are the re ed homer here.
Assume they both had rings--but the wolves enjoyed more consistency in the playoffs. You would think Love was better bc of it ?
You mean mavfans on this forum ?
"Imagine Love and Howard being similar players playing the same position except they play on totally different types of teams and magically Kevin Love averages fewer rebounds and is one of the greatest shooters in league history, and blah blah blah"
"Imagine a world where Boris Diaw is better than David Lee, wouldn't you say Diaw > Lee then???
"Imagine a world where people stop using logic and common sense, now don't my arguments make sense!!!!!!"
It's another hypothetical within a hypothetical
"Imagine Love and Howard being similar players playing the same position except they play on totally different types of teams"
"Imagine a world where Boris Diaw is better than David Lee, wouldn't you say Diaw > Lee then???
"Imagine a world where people stop using logic and common sense, now don't my arguments make sense!!!!!!"
Yeah you re , comparing two players (one whos a great offensive player to one who isnt as good offensively but is a beast on defense) is absolutely crazy. I mean its not like thats similar to the KG and Dirk comparison at all. Go ahead and omit KGs three games too so we can see how it destroys my argument.
Remember when a certain Spurs fan who's vision is impaired called Dwight Howard a Kevin Love with darker pigmentation
No i'll just let you hang yourself with another hypothetical.
"What if Russell Westbrook was a 7 foot tall white German, and Shaq was 70 lbs lighter, played PF and made his free throws! Now do you see my point!?!?!"
Yeah what I asked is on par with those hypotheticals. Actually how was my inital Love or Dwight question even a hypothetical?
FkLA making another dumbass resort to dumb arguments. I just keep chalking those wins up tbh.
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