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Yes, one more risk factor for insurance companies to use to ether deny coverage, or charge more.
DNA test reveals 80 markers for inherited cancer risk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21945812
I think that once it becomes available, the government should mandate everybody to take it.
Given the costs of medical care and cancer that affect everybody, there would seem to be a clear public interest in doing so. The government, as well as the private sector, would have a VERY high incentive to avoid costs. If the government doesn't do it, you can bet your ass some insurance company will. They are already offering lower insurance to people who let them snoop on their driving habits.
These tests will not only tell us who is more likely to get cancer, we will learn a LOT about the exact mechanisms.
Broader question:
What about other kinds of tests that look for stuff beyond just cancer? diabetes? heart-disease?
Yes, one more risk factor for insurance companies to use to ether deny coverage, or charge more.
I don't think tests should be mandated by anyone until there a strategy in place to make use of that data. Just knowing means very little seems like.
Damn, RG going all Eugenics on us today.
We should just figure out who the genetically supreme people are, and sterilize the rest.
a trait is not always expressed
Completely disagree here. If for some reason you are on government healthcare, and a risk factor pops up, MAYBE then. But I'm not for wholesale screening.
i won't be screened, thats for sure
and 'trait' can mean so many different things. ling them 'cancer markers' and checking people off on a list seems a bit presumptuous especially to demand an edict.
Liberals and their love affair with mandates...
Tell us about Repugs vagina obsession and all the vagina REGULATIONS
Why do you always seem so unhappy? Do you need someone to talk to? A friend?
GFY. What's to be happy about the Repugs ing up the country?
I agree. It needs to be mandatory and very well planned/thought out.
Seems like more and more corporations are forcing employees, aka MANDATING, to divulge personal lives and health, with no "freedom" "liberty" "water the tree" screams from the "marans", but if govt did it, they'd be squealing like big fat pigs.
Since that personal medical information is sellable product, who knows how much the corporations are selling it for, sooner or later.
Risk factors are risk factors.
They tell you, in the broad actuarial sense, the odds of someone developing a disease.
Right now, we all pay for the cost of every disease out of pocket. Insured or uninsured, it all has costs.
Those costs are measured, and form the basis of all actuarial science.
X disease, costs, on average, Y dollars.
X disease has Z chance of happening to any given person in a large population. If you can more accurately group people you WILL more accurately determine how much their diseases will cost the system and the economy.
Further, most cost/benefit calculations for tests assume some kind of with an average (total population) propensity for developing a disease. If you know your odds are MUCH greater than normal, the calucations as to how much/often you should be tested change. We as a society should be willing to bear these costs, as prevention is almost always cheaper than treatment.
Both are mildly valid points.
We already allow corporations to collect all sorts of data, e.g. cookies in browsers, etc.
I think a lot on the right tend to dismiss or be a bit ignorant as to how much real power we are giving corporations over our lives. They fear us creeping towards government tyranny, but seem to be ingoring the corporate tyranny happening right under their noses.
Information and resource assymetry is not just for the government, and it should always make you nervous, IMO.
Yes, we know. But facts make statistics. Statistics do not make facts.
Nobody likes being treated like a statistic, and this adds to that complication. Any such testing should be requested by the patient, and doctor patient privileged should be maintained.
Agreeing with WC here.
statistics ARE demographic, epidemological FACTS
my will-never-be-implemented solution due to "marans" repeatedly voting in Repug extremist obstructionists and BigPharma/Insurance's ownership of Congress
public health insurance paid by everybody on ALL income (not just earned income), NOT an option, deducted by payer off the top.
the insurance contribution on income would be cheaper than for-profit insurance (approaching inevitably $20K/year for family of four)
then we have both universal insurance and health coverage.
It's your choice "Freedom for the marans!" if you want to try to obtain/maintain a BONUS reduction (there will be no MALUS penalty) of your public insurance contribution:
take a "FREE" annual THOROUGH physical, BP, lipids, inflammatory markers, renal, liver enzymes, minerals, hormones (estrogen/cortisol/testosterone), fasting glucose, eGFR, blood, urine, exercise (VOmax, run a mile, etc), carotid/cardiac sonograms, thoracic calcium scan, %age body fat, and pollutants.
the better your numbers are adjusted for your age, etc, the greater your bonus.
This system would have a huge preventative value (early disease detection, spotting BAD trends) with the payoff of curtailed disease treatments.
Since children add cost to their parents insurance contributions, the parents have responsibility for their children's health (children tested, too, always OPTIONALLY)
etc, etc, etc.
There will always be the option, as there is now for Medicare, for anyone to buy private, for-profit insurance on top of their public insurance (sorta like HSA/FSA/Medicare-top-up now).
btw, genetics, DNA aren't destiny. They are risk factors very often modifiable by epi-genetics.
Poll: 47 Million Believe Big Pharma Creates Disease
A new major poll from the organization Public Policy Polling over what United States citizens believe to be true about their government and beyond has revealed that a whopping 47 million citizens are privy to the fact that the Big Pharma pharmaceutical industry and the current medical health paradigm are actually generating further sickness within the nation. And that’s just within the United States.
The poll, which asked questions about everything from the use of sodium fluoride in the water to the assassination of JFK, has been popping up in the media where reporters are lumping together concerns about Big Pharma with the belief in Bigfoot. The issue with the poll, however, is that there is really some strange wording within the questions that I think altered the actual response of the individuals who were surveyed due to the oftentimes confusing or more ‘sinister’ wording utilized by the Public Policy Polling agency.
For example, the question regarding the medical establishment working together with Big Pharma reads as follows:
“Do you believe that the pharmaceutical industry is in league with the medical industry to “invent” new diseases in order to make money, or not?”
And 47 million people, based on the poll stats, agree that this is the case. But if the wording were to be changed even slightly, I think that we’d see even more widespread acceptance within the public — of which 15% of the entire United States population would agree according to this poll. For example, the wording here could be confusing with the usage of the word invent with quotations, as it could imply that these industries are creating new diseases that are previously unheard of instead of just generating sickness within the population.
http://naturalsociety.com/poll-47-million-medical-industry-big-pharma-creates-disease/#ixzz2PyOyY7ZZ
More GENERAL SUPPORT for a govt health care system whose PRIORITY is health care and curing, not MORE PROFITS.
for-profit health care is a HUGE AMERICAN FAILURE
lol poll fail.
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