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shut up got, you trying too hard with that tbh
What if Kevin Garnett had 5 rings, 1 NCAA le, was the greatest point guard in league history, and was HIV negative? Then who would you take between he and Dirk? Huh?
Case closed.
shut up got, you trying too hard with that tbh
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Was it correlated to his 6'9" wingspan for a 6'2" guard?
And I have no problem to admit that: Duncan > Dirk.
I've seen more than plenty of non-spurs fans here argue against you on this, and agree Dirk > Garnett.
I think if we did an honest poll where we excluded GNSF, and had simply brighter minds of ST, the majority would say Dirk > Garnett.
One problem.
Kevin Love isn't a great offensive player. He is a great pick-and-roll/pick-and-pop shooter. Does he consistently create his own shot? No. If he could, the Wolves would be a much better team than they are. His inability to create his own shot is a MAJOR downfall for him. I don't ever see teams consistently running double teams at him (or Garnett for that matter), the way teams do against elite players like Dirk, Duncan, and others.
If Love and Garnett could have drawn that kind of attention on a consistent basis, then the Wolves would have had far more success over the past 15 years or so.
FkLA's takes are a personal insult to all basketball fans' intelligence, tbh....
Wait a sec, I just realize that you said this garbage here...Does someone like Chuck, who also spent some time out on the perimeter, have poor stats in offensive rebounding as well (since thats the only reason Dirk isnt a great offensive rebounder right)? Why is a small forward like Bird on this list too and worst of all why does Dirk have a lower defensive rebounding % than him.
Then you agreed with this?
How assbackwards is this? You are going to thrash on Dirk for being lesser of a rebounder than guys who are smaller than him who spent some time on the perimeter, but then agree that a guy who was 6'6, was a better rebounder than Tim Duncan, the greatest PF of all time???
Hmm... so everything is completely straight forward and based on simple stats when it comes to a chance to bash on Dirk, but when it comes to other guys, you can look a little deeper into the matter and realize that straight-forward stats don't mean everything, but rather seeing how people play the game matters more?
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If you want to make some sort of comparison or hypothetical, at least make one that makes a little more sense.
How about Ron Artest vs Tracy McGrady? Maybe not quite a big of names, but similar in their comparisons.
Artest was a well rounded guy who's only thing that held him back from being a superstar was lack of offensive leadership. He could definitely score points, but he wasn't great at creating his own shot and hitting them at a high rate, nor calming down and leading an offense in crunch-time. However, he was a dominant defender and fantastic dirty-work/hustle guy. He irritated opponents to no end and could throw many scorers off their game mentally.
OTOH, we have Tracy McGrady. He was extremely talented, in particular at scoring. However he tended to be lazy on defense and other aspects of the game, even though he was fully capable of doing those other things at least averagely. But his scoring ability was through the roof, defenses had to consistently double him, and he was able to lead teams to the playoffs multiple times. And even though we all know it's bull , just for the sake of FKLA's argument, lets throw in the stupid "playoff choker" comparison between Dirk and T-Mac.
Who do you want leading your team?
I love circle jerk threads tbqh
lol not knowing what the a hypothetical is
lol stupid gook
Yeah, comparing two wings makes alot more sense. Especially one that routinely averaged 30 ppg to one that rarely broke 20 ppg. Dirk is the better offensive player but you do realize KG wasnt anywhere near as limited as youre trying to make him out to be, right? KG was consistenly at 22-25 ppg, Dirks career high is 26.6.
Dude, do a quick google search. Most people in general wont place Dirk anywhere higher than 4th-5th best PF of all-time.
missing the point as usual...
Yeah, comparing two wings makes alot more sense. Especially one that routinely averaged 30 ppg to one that rarely broke 20 ppg. Dirk is the better offensive player but you do realize KG wasnt anywhere near as limited as youre trying to make him out to be, right? KG was consistenly at 22-25 ppg, Dirks career high is 26.6.
T-Mac averaged 5.5ppg higher for his career, while Dirk averaged 3.5 more than Garnett. Not as off base as you suggest. Additionally, T-Mac only his the 30 ppg mark once in his career, not routinely. And PPG isn't a mark of how deadly of an offensive player you are. Kevin Love averaged 26ppg last year. Is he a guy you are going to send lots of defensive double teams after? no. He simply s the pick game to death. Anyone who knows how to guard a PnR or PnP will shut his ass down.
But how about we swap Artest in this comparison for Shawn Marion? That way the scoring difference is only 3.5 points, just like Dirk's and Garnett's difference. The rebounding difference is more comparable too, as Marion averaged 9.1 for his career as opposed to 5.6 for T-Mac. Marion in a lot of ways is similar to Garnett - strong rebounder, strong defender, extremely versatile, and can score points while not being a dominant offensive threat.
Who do you want leading your team? T-Mac or Marion?
missing the point as usual...
T-Mac averaged 5.5ppg higher for his career, while Dirk averaged 3.5 more than Garnett. Not as off base as you suggest. Additionally, T-Mac only his the 30 ppg mark once in his career, not routinely. And PPG isn't a mark of how deadly of an offensive player you are. Kevin Love averaged 26ppg last year. Is he a guy you are going to send lots of defensive double teams after? no. He simply s the pick game to death. Anyone who knows how to guard a PnR or PnP will shut his ass down.
But how about we swap Artest in this comparison for Shawn Marion? That way the scoring difference is only 3.5 points, just like Dirk's and Garnett's difference. The rebounding difference is more comparable too, as Marion averaged 9.1 for his career as opposed to 5.6 for T-Mac. Marion in a lot of ways is similar to Garnett - strong rebounder, strong defender, extremely versatile, and can score points while not being a dominant offensive threat.
Who do you want leading your team? T-Mac or Marion?
No dumbass, the gap in offense between a healthy Tmac (since Im assuming thats what youre referring to, and not an entire career Tmac since his numbers dropped drastically after the back problems) and Artest is alot bigger than Dirk and KG. Marion is probably even more re ed. Was Marion capable of creating his own shot and is he considered one of the best defenders of all-time? Cause both of those apply to KG you stupid dip .
He didnt magically take a dip the year he missed all-nba, the relationship had grown sour with Minny. If you think he missed the all-nba teams that year because he sucked youre a dummy tbh. He got outplayed 2 games of that series and still put up 24, 19, and 5... not his fault Minny sucked.
Not being good enough to even make all-nba third team in your prime. Name one other supposed "all-time great" big man that wasn't even awarded a spot as a top 9 F/C in the league for one season in their prime.
Yeah that wasnt correlated in any way with the Twolves only winning like 30 games. KG just decided to suck that year and his numbers took a huge dip, right ?
If you wanna play that game though, what kind of 'all-time great' follows up an MVP season with the worst choke of all-time against an 8 seed?
TD>Dirk>KG tbh.
KG followed up his MVP season with a trip to the WCF. What was Dirks excuse for 2007 ?
His numbers didn't take a huge dip. Holy you're dumb. And yeah, there's a correlation. If he can't lead his admittedly crappy supporting cast to something better than a 30 win season, he clearly isn't that good. , even Kobe took Smush Parker to the playoffs, and never sucked as bad as ing 32-50
MVP is a regular season award so that's irrelevant to the playoffs. And a few all time greats have choked like that in the playoffs, including one Timothy Cornelius Decimus Maximus Duncan.
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