I'm not going as far as taking shots at Mjs game ... Just saying he ain't perfect. Dude had good footwork, wiry strong amazing hops and hands. Like Kobe he struggled to integrate and get along with team-mates ...Kerr wasn't the only one he punched but Phil taught him same as Shaq and,Kobe afterwards how to win. MJ probably still rings a few times minus Phil but no way he gets 6. And Spo is no Pjax either
you mofos seriously comparing Kobe's cancerous relations with Shaq to MJ's relations with Kerr???
the 2 are not even in the same planet when it comes to leading a team
Cmon, we all saw Lebron was scared. It wasn't just having a bad series. It was a player that was supposed to be at his peak pulling a disappearing act. Two things did Lebron in that series. First was the choke of Game 2 where the Heat thought they had it in the bag and Lebron figured he'd start stat-padding a bit. He dominated the ball, missed those shots and he never mentally recovered when the Mavs came back and won. The 2nd thing was Wade undressing him late in Game 3 where Lebron wanted no part of the ball in the final minutes. Lebron constantly had one on one coverage and he sat on the perimeter and swung the ball like he was 2006 Kobe in Game 7. The final straw was Lebron swinging the ball to Chalmers in the corner and backing away. Chalmers got trapped and Lebron didn't even come back to the ball to help him. Chalmers turned it over and Wade snapped on Lebron and scolded him like a child. Then came Game 4, eight in points in a Finals game with Shawn Marion calling him a in the same game? Jordan scores 8 points blind-folded"Shrinking from the moment"... that's just lazy, ESPN-esque cliche "analysis," tbh.... I'll never understand it, considering he had already been to the Finals before that year and had been clutch in the playoffs numerous times, so I don't see which "moment" he'd be "shrinking from"...
He had one bad series, it happens - and quite frankly, having a bad Finals is preferable to getting owned multiple times in the first round like MJ did... not to mention, they wouldn't have even made the Finals that year if not for LeBron's heroics against the Celtics and Bulls, tbh....
Cmon, we all saw Lebron was scared. It wasn't just having a bad series. It was a player that was supposed to be at his peak pulling a disappearing act. Two things did Lebron in that series. First was the choke of Game 2 where the Heat thought they had it in the bag and Lebron figured he'd start stat-padding a bit. He dominated the ball, missed those shots and he never mentally recovered when the Mavs came back and won. The 2nd thing was Wade undressing him late in Game 3 where Lebron wanted no part of the ball in the final minutes. Lebron constantly had one on one coverage and he sat on the perimeter and swung the ball like he was 2006 Kobe in Game 7. The final straw was Lebron swinging the ball to Chalmers in the corner and backing away. Chalmers got trapped and Lebron didn't even come back to the ball to help him. Chalmers turned it over and Wade snapped on Lebron and scolded him like a child. Then came Game 4, eight in points in a Finals game with Shawn Marion calling him a in the same game? Jordan scores 8 points blind-folded
Lol you literally have no clue what youre talking about. He had 8 points and 5 turnovers, 3-11 shooting, single figures in every caregory ing re
Your ful, generic takes in this thread just further my case for statistical analysis over your "eye test," btw....
Hey CN what advanced stat did Lebron do good in that game?
With his 8 point, 5 to, 27% fg shooting triple single performance?
Lol come in here and eat this got
So to summarize; he failed the "eye test", the "box score test", and the "advanced stats test". All in the same game but somehow on some kind of deeper level of understanding that's beyond us all... He did well
Bron has to be Kobe before he can ever think about being MJ...the fat white balding guys media, and the analysts with no rings will fellate Lebron but MJ has already spoken...Cmon, we all saw Lebron was scared. It wasn't just having a bad series. It was a player that was supposed to be at his peak pulling a disappearing act. Two things did Lebron in that series. First was the choke of Game 2 where the Heat thought they had it in the bag and Lebron figured he'd start stat-padding a bit. He dominated the ball, missed those shots and he never mentally recovered when the Mavs came back and won. The 2nd thing was Wade undressing him late in Game 3 where Lebron wanted no part of the ball in the final minutes. Lebron constantly had one on one coverage and he sat on the perimeter and swung the ball like he was 2006 Kobe in Game 7. The final straw was Lebron swinging the ball to Chalmers in the corner and backing away. Chalmers got trapped and Lebron didn't even come back to the ball to help him. Chalmers turned it over and Wade snapped on Lebron and scolded him like a child. Then came Game 4, eight in points in a Finals game with Shawn Marion calling him a in the same game? Jordan scores 8 points blind-folded
It's simple for me...here are the equations there's no room for alternatives:
Boxing- Ali was the greatest Tyson was the 2nd coming
Basketball - MJ was the greatest Kobe was the 2nd coming
Music - Michael Jackson was the greatest Usher is the 2nd coming
Kori Ellis - Timvp was the greatest Kool is the 2nd ming
He's at the precipice...similarly where MJ once perched. MJ went on to the end straight & narrow, save the bend in the road when he got suspended and his Dad got murdered thru the same misdeed. James could be re ed, hence his path would be compromised.
^ Could????
how does the best player on the planet go to London and get rejected by a fellow white female star? He asked to take her for dinner and she said no and then went on to twitter to brag about it....while Kobe taking half naked pictures in his hotel room with 2 nice white es...
That James is re ed...
That was actually game 4 where he put up the triple single in 46 minutes if court time, my bad
Did I not say he had a bad series? The difference is, only dumbasses think it was because of stupid like "he looked scared," as if you have any clue of what he was thinking during the games...
you mofos seriously comparing Kobe's cancerous relations with Shaq to MJ's relations with Kerr???
the 2 are not even in the same planet when it comes to leading a team
Missed the point wasnt that MJ s flaws are as bad as LeBron or Kobes just that he had them which u just admitted
38 year old JKidd shut down LeBron in crunch time, tbh..
I agree with Harlem bout det choking tbh. MJ>LBJ but when Bron retires he'll prolly end up the 2nd greatest of all time. Dude's a in beast.
The NBA's media coverage has changed dramatically, tbh..
Everybody is obsessed with ring totals nowadays, ignoring the cir stances and overall process in winning those les, tbh..
When Lebron is mentioned in the same conversation as Jordan, total number of rings is largely irrelevant, as the argument is centered around peak play, not career accolades..
Consistency and longevity is nice on your resume, but peak performance is an entirely separate argument..
Lebron choked in 2011, even as a fanboy, I can't defend his performance, he was very poor..it's irrelevant in the peak discussion though, as the argument is 2012 and 2013 Lebron vs. 1991 to 1993 Jordan..I'd take '91 Jordan, but it's close..Lebron has more responsibility than Jordan ever had on his team, tbh..
Also, unlike the selfish basketball we've seen throughout the 90s and 2000s, Lebron plays team basketball, he has rejuvenated 80s style of the game..
1969 Finals - Game 7
Bill Russell: 6 pts, 21 reb, 6 ast, 2-7 FG, 2-4 FT (W)
1974 Finals - Game 7
Oscar Robertson: 6 pts, 3 reb, 11 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk, 2-13 FG, 2-2 FT (L)
John Havlicek: 16 pts, 9 reb, 6 ast, 3 stl, 0 blk, 6-20 FG, 4-4 FT (W)
1984 Finals - Game 7
Magic Johnson: 16 pts, 5 reb, 15 ast, 4 stl, 2 blk, 7 tov, 5-14 FG, 0-0 3PT, 6-7 FT (L)
Larry Bird: 20 pts, 12 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk, 2 tov, 6-18 FG, 0-0 3 PT, 8-8 FT (W)
2005 Finals - Game 7
Tim Duncan: 25 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 0 stl, 2 blk, 5 tov, 10-27 FG, 0-0 3PT, 5-6 FT (W)
2010 Finals - Game 7
Kobe Bryant: 23 pts, 15 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 tov, 6-24 FG, 0-6 3PT, 11-15 FT (W)
Yep, Media has went from watch dog (pre-'80s) to junk yard dog (pre-'90s) to lapdog (since). The $ went haywire, teams consumed their own Media/information feeds in order to control the message. It was cute & quaint when the money was inconsequential for "talk radio"/Media to denigrate the product with judgment & punishment. After the $ went viral it wasn't funny anymore. It was untenable. It's dead serious now and they ain't in' around. It's centralized, managed, curried & produced. & everybody is on boardPERIOD
According to MJ himself, Kwame brown is a franchise center worthy of the #1 overall pick.According to MJ himself...: "Kobe is the only player worthy of comparison to me" - MJ
end of story
you mean to say, he has to be on 5 championship rosters. team accomplishment. and tbh, he has only been on a championship caliber roster since taking the heat over. none of those cleveland rosters were worthy, but he carried them more than i've ever seen one player carry a team. he's been in miami for 2 years and has 2 finals appearance. also a massive favorite to win this year.
In 2008-09:
LeBron took the Cavs to 66 wins with a roster of Mo Williams, Delonte West, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, an old Zydrunas Ilgauskas while coached by Mike Brown.
Kobe took the Lakers to 65 wins with a roster of Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton, and Derek Fisher while coached by Phil Jackson.
In 2006-07:
LeBron took the Cavs to 50 wins and the Finals with a roster of Ilgauskas, Larry Hughes, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, Daniel Gibson, Anderson Varejao, and Eric Snow.
Kobe took the Lakers to 42 wins and a first round exit with a roster of Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, and Smush Parker.
LOL Lebron/MJ thread ...
devolving in to a Kobe/Lebron ...
Dunbasses cant help themselves. Many on here post stuff like Kobe shouldn't even be in this discussion but you asscracks cant stop BRINGING him in ...
That's how:::LOL Lebron/MJ thread ...
devolving in to a Kobe/Lebron ...
Dunbasses cant help themselves. Many on here post stuff like Kobe shouldn't even be in this discussion but you asscracks cant stop BRINGING him in ...
Kobe: 5
the tired old bag Duncan: 4
manifests itself.
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