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KG era solo uno de el grandes tres. aunque hombre era el mejor en su equipo que ganaba el 08' anillo, este no habla mucho tbh.
KG was the best player on a le team tbh.
KG era solo uno de el grandes tres. aunque hombre era el mejor en su equipo que ganaba el 08' anillo, este no habla mucho tbh.
Damn amazing how Dirk goes from the pinnacle to rock bottom without Big Daddy Tyson holding his hand, smh.
Better than going from WCF whipping boy to 32 wins without Sam Cassell to hit all the big shots for you
Garnett lifted the Minnesota Timberwolves into the Western Conference finals as he collected 32 points, 21 rebounds and some overdue respect in an 83-80 victory over the Sacramento Kings.In past playoff failures, Garnett was criticized for not taking control of the game. This time, he grabbed it by the throat, scoring 13 straight Minnesota points in the fourth quarter.Minnesota was clinging to a 64-62 lead when Garnett took over. In a four-minute span, he made a jumper, an inside basket, a scoop layup and a dunk after a nasty crossover dribble that left Webber swiping at air and opened a 74-68 lead.Sam Cassell, who had 23 points and seven assists, made two free throws at the 3:10 mark before the Kings stormed back, closing to 79-75 before Garnett stole a pass, drew a foul and made a free throw with 31 seconds left
Not his fault tbh...
Going by peak performances, I'll take 2004 Garnett over 2006 Dirk.
2004 Garnett: 24 ppg, 14 rpg, 5 apg, 2.2 bpg, 1.5 spg, 50 FG%, 79 FT%, 29.4 PER
2006 Nowitzki: 26 ppg, 9 rpg, 3 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.7 spg, 48 FG%, 90 FT%, 28.1 PER
So of those categories, Garnett won 6 out of 8.
he was more clutch than Chris Webber
Yep. And he also didnt have Cassell hit all the big shots for him like you erroneously claimed you dumb gook.
Yep. He'd a never wandered away from Horry.
tee, hee.
Yep, which is why it's so sad to see Prime KG just barely miss the playoffs with those great 32-50 and 33-49 seasons
And of course Dirk has a great supporting cast with guys like Mike James while KG was wasting away with dog like Mike James.
You're right.
Because Latrell Spreewell and was taking most of the rest.
Why did the "2nd best SG of all-time" miss the playoffs in his prime?
Duncan
Dirk
Barkley
Malone
Pet
...
...
...
Hayes/Webber/McHale/KG/Rodman
Why did CWEBB turn his back on Horry & commissed on up that lane?
tee, hee.
Good to see you admit that your Kobe choked, just like Webber did.
Boiled down:::
Kobe: 5
the tired old bag Duncan: 4
ha, ha.
Rings are team accomplishments.
Fine. You take that tact. I'm stickin' with this one:::
Kobe: 5
the tired old bag Duncan: 4
This makes sense historically, but for the past several years I'm not sure it does.
Defensive anchor caliber bigs in the league right now:
Duncan
KG
Howard
Fat Gasol
Chandler
asik
NOah
HIbbert
Perkins
Bogut
Favors
davis
Who am I missing? Varejao maybe, or some combination of the lopez twins? Not a long list IMO, and kg/duncan/howard/gasol are legit two way players IMO (well maybe not howard) and outside of favors and davis (the only under 25) they all have expensive contracts.
Is that really easier to find than scoring? because it seems every year another "go to" scorer/shooter comes into the NBA (lillard, curry, harden, westbrook, to name just a few of the under 25 guys, and that is excluding number one picks like rose or irving).
put it this way: if you are going to start a team and can choose between kevin love and noah to start your team, who do you select?
how about omer asik or david lee?
I'd rather take noah or asik and play the chances of finding a scorer through the draft or from a team that can't afford / can't keep happy the one they have than choosing love or lee and getting scoring I'll probably be able to find somewhere else much easier than a big that can cover the large whole in my defense left by love / lee.
and FYI:
in '11 the dallas mavs spent 85M+ on their champ roster
in 08 boston spent 75m+ on theirs
it would seem that if defensive specialists are so cheap and considering that kg is basically the highest paid NBA player of all time, you would think that dirk / the mavs would have had a huge advantage in having the cap space and funds to hire the readily available defensive players to have more success, and at a lower cost...
So you admit Kobe's had better teams than Duncan?
KG needed a closer like Pierce to close for him, because yes he isnt dominant in the clutch. No shame in that though since Shaq had Kobe and Wade close out games for him because of his FT woes. Manu closed games for the TD since like '05. Doesnt ing mean Dirk is better than any of them.
It took a heck of alot more than just a defensive big for those Mavs to get that le. Everything that needed to go right for them did.
The Mavericks have grown to count on the former Sixth Man of the Year's production in the final period.
"He's been our closer over the last couple of years," Dirk Nowitzki said, "a great clutch player."
Well how many people right now in the NBA can put a team on their back offensively (similar to how Dirk did) and win a championship doing so?This makes sense historically, but for the past several years I'm not sure it does.
Defensive anchor caliber bigs in the league right now:
Duncan
KG
Howard
Fat Gasol
Chandler
asik
NOah
HIbbert
Perkins
Bogut
Favors
davis
Who am I missing? Varejao maybe, or some combination of the lopez twins? Not a long list IMO, and kg/duncan/howard/gasol are legit two way players IMO (well maybe not howard
Is that really easier to find than scoring? because it seems every year another "go to" scorer/shooter comes into the NBA (lillard, curry, harden, westbrook, to name just a few of the under 25 guys, and that is excluding number one picks like rose or irving).
put it this way: if you are going to start a team and can choose between kevin love and noah to start your team, who do you select?
how about omer asik or david lee?
I'd rather take noah or asik and play the chances of finding a scorer through the draft or from a team that can't afford / can't keep happy the one they have than choosing love or lee and getting scoring I'll probably be able to find somewhere else much easier than a big that can cover the large whole in my defense left by love / lee.
and FYI:
in '11 the dallas mavs spent 85M+ on their champ roster
in 08 boston spent 75m+ on theirs
it would seem that if defensive specialists are so cheap and considering that kg is basically the highest paid NBA player of all time, you would think that dirk / the mavs would have had a huge advantage in having the cap space and funds to hire the readily available defensive players to have more success, and at a lower cost...
Lebron
Kobe
Durant?
Carmello?
That's about how long that list goes, and with Durant and Carmello, its questionable at this moment as they haven't really shown the ability to do so. Durant can score in large volume and hits clutch jumpers due to his ridiculous range, sure, but what if his jumper isn't falling? Can he still manufacture points for himself in other ways, as well as his teammates? He still has yet to prove that. Carmello is one of the most unstoppable scorers ever, but his mentality is what has always been questionable, as he doesn't appear to consistently show a strong desire to win at all costs, and his shot selection is absolutely atrocious.
There are plenty of solid scorers, but many of whom you listed (Lillard, Harden, Westbrook, Curry) I strongly doubt can offensively carry a team through 4 playoff series against the best teams and defenses in the NBA.
Neat.
Want to see something neater?
Since Dirk and Terry has been playing together, only in one season (last year when Dirk was dealing with injuries and taking a reduced role) has Terry scored more points than Dirk has in clutch time. Even then, Dirk's +/- stats were noticably higher than Terry's in clutch time.
So is it so much that Terry was the true closer? Or that Dirk was being excessively complimentary of his teammates (as he has been known to do) to keep their confidence as high as possible?
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