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lol four posts in a row
Offensively, yes. Timmy and LeBron also dominated defensively tbh.
I was just expanding on diegos point. Finding a guard to pair him up with like Pierce, or what TD and Shaq had with Manu and Kobe respectively is easier than having all the things I listed that went right in 2011 for the Mavs. Doesnt even require a player of that caliber, since he did fine with someone like Cassell who was a great closer but not as good a player as the three I mentioned. I can see how you wouldnt think so though since youre the biggest homer on this site imho.
Or if theyre soft spoken they also tend to not say much at all, good or bad. Either way are you suggesting we should take something Shaq, who spouts ridiculous left and right, says with the same seriousness as we take something Dirk says ?
lol four posts in a row
Not entirely sure I would put volume shooters in place of Pierce, players like Lillard, Curry, Westbrook are not crafty players you can go go in the clutch for a championship team. Harden we have yet to see. Pierce was a fantastic player, and still is. He provides a skill set that very few players in the league can duplicate.This makes sense historically, but for the past several years I'm not sure it does.
Defensive anchor caliber bigs in the league right now:
Duncan
KG
Howard
Fat Gasol
Chandler
asik
NOah
HIbbert
Perkins
Bogut
Favors
davis
Who am I missing? Varejao maybe, or some combination of the lopez twins? Not a long list IMO, and kg/duncan/howard/gasol are legit two way players IMO (well maybe not howard) and outside of favors and davis (the only under 25) they all have expensive contracts.
Is that really easier to find than scoring? because it seems every year another "go to" scorer/shooter comes into the NBA (lillard, curry, harden, westbrook, to name just a few of the under 25 guys, and that is excluding number one picks like rose or irving).
put it this way: if you are going to start a team and can choose between kevin love and noah to start your team, who do you select?
how about omer asik or david lee?
I'd rather take noah or asik and play the chances of finding a scorer through the draft or from a team that can't afford / can't keep happy the one they have than choosing love or lee and getting scoring I'll probably be able to find somewhere else much easier than a big that can cover the large whole in my defense left by love / lee.
and FYI:
in '11 the dallas mavs spent 85M+ on their champ roster
in 08 boston spent 75m+ on theirs
it would seem that if defensive specialists are so cheap and considering that kg is basically the highest paid NBA player of all time, you would think that dirk / the mavs would have had a huge advantage in having the cap space and funds to hire the readily available defensive players to have more success, and at a lower cost...
That said, Chandler is the equivalent on defense, and outside of Noah, (coincidentally) KG, maybe a healthy Bogut, Marc Gasol, , and Asik, I don't think he is that easily replaceable.
I still maintain scorers who can carry a championship, or at least close for a championship team, is more difficult to find than defensive players who can anchor a championship team.
As for the roster cost, Chandler was making $12.6M in 11, and the two contracts > $10 were actually of scorers (Terry and Caron Butler)
In 08, Pierce was making $16.4M, the other contract over $10M was Allen's at $16M. The rest of the roster is filled with relatively low cost defenders like Perkins, Allen, House and Posey.
Chandler is alot more mobile and covers more ground than the last three. Noah is a great defensive player but not sure I put him up there as Chandlers equal. The only player I think couldve duplicated Chandlers impact is probably pre-Lakers Dwight. Both were easily the two best interior defenders in 2011.
I wouldn't put Chandler on that exclusive a club. I think Noah can duplicate, or even better what Chandler does. Bogut is a fantastic, yet underrated defender. Howard is most definitely there, just that he is a superstar level player instead of a role player.
Also forgot about Varajeo.
If we go back a few years, a healthy Camby (overrated, but still ...), the Wallace brothers, and Jermaine O'Neal could have duplicated what Chandler did.
Noah is much better than Chandler tbh...
at FKLA referencing player quotes as evidence of anything.
"Amare is the best bigman in the league."
- Shaq
In the interest of boosting team morale, a good teammate will say things like that even if they don't believe it themselves. Dirk's comment was a prime example of that. Unfortunately, the stats don't support Dirk's comment. In 2011, Dirk averaged 3 more points in clutch time, shot twice as many FTs, and was assisted on 39% of his shots, while Terry was assisted on 59% of his attempts, suggesting that the majority of Terry's looks were created by other players.
Terry was definitely one of a clutch time second option, but he was never, at any time, the Mavericks' primary closer.
So gotkLA answered all posts but this... Iiiiinteresting!
We're bombasted with that opine. Chandler though actually did it. Put the entire roster and Cuban on his shoulders and carried them to it. They kicked & screamed the entire way, but, they went.
All Noah as to do is do it.
Chop/chop.
lol still alone in your dumbassery
Varejao and Camby replicating Chandler is laughable. Sheed on his own and not as a tandem with Big Ben is laughable too.
Regardless of that though, thats far from all Dirk needs to win a le. He would require very solid defenders starting alongside him as well, since every other starter on that team was a better defender than Dirk. Shooters to catch lightning in a bottle and shoot lights out almost every game. The King to continue choking forever. And himself to have ridiculously efficient shooting percentages. Its not as simple as giving him an anchor.
link where the majority of fans and writers/columnists rate dirk higher than the 2ndPFGOAT aka KG ?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1531223&page=1
http://hoops-nation.com/community/to...g-their-prime/
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...-Kevin-Garnett
http://hoops-nation.com/community/to...vs-prime-dirk/
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/kevin-garnett-vs-dirk-nowitzki.203021215/page-5
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...c.php?t=513827 *added this one since two of the other five were from same site
Five polls I found with a quick google search. Recent and after Dirk won his le, some really fresh off the le. Last one did give the edge to Dirk.
but FkLA is just dumb and alone in his opinion, Dirk is way better
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lol bodybuilding.com
Typical MK move: pussy gang attack declaring themselves winners to try to get the weaker minds on their side and make it seem like their rea ed homer opinions aren't ty as . Gotta give them props though, it works with all the mindless suckups that exist here
Exhibit A, tbh.
lol it's nice how you're trying to be Fkla's semen shield now, but you gotta move quicker. Consult hemann82 for proper semen shielding technique tbh.Typical MK move: pussy gang attack declaring themselves winners to try to get the weaker minds on their side and make it seem like their rea ed homer opinions aren't ty as . Gotta give them props though, it works with all the mindless suckups that exist here
of course I think they could, thats why I listed them, but I think they are just as coveted / highly paid as a scorer is. I think hibbert and gasol should continue to improve defensively, but right now neither uses their size as well as chandler does on D.
and the longley comparison still sucks, he was more of an offensive player than a defensive player. at most you could argue he clogged the lane because of his size, but he was not a rebounder, not a shot blocker, not someone who could switch on pick and rolls... rodman and pippen were the ones grabbing boards and doing the dirty work.
That's it, right there.
& what enables Chandler to use his size so admirably? Because he uses his head first. A novel approach, but, altogether what led to the Mav's ringin' in '11.
Alot of good info on there about nutrition and lifting. Would recommend to your fat ass tbh. Real talk hit up the 'Losing Fat' section, youll be surprised how easy it is to lose weight.
lol no thanks, i'm getting in shape just fine on my own. If i ever want that doughey look tho, i'll hit u up for advice.Alot of good info on there about nutrition and lifting. Would recommend to your fat ass tbh. Real talk hit up the 'Losing Fat' section, youll be surprised how easy it is to lose weight.
At home, Tuna? Where your children sleep & your wife comes to sit on a 14 incher.
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