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  1. #126
    Purple and Bold! whitemamba's Avatar
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    How so? I didn't know that you would be this bad even without the team chemistry. I didn't think you were better than any of the top three teams until you proved it on the court. Now that the season is almost over, I think it came down to team chemistry. I know you guys will say it was the injuries, and what am I talking about now that I mentioned cohesion, but the games that they did play together, it just seems that the chemistry was never truly there for most of the season. Kobe just never bought the team together as evidenced by both Gasol and Dwight taking subtle jabs at him throughout the season (even as recently as last week).

    I respect your points, (no troll) but i think they have played like 5 games together i cant remember, thats most def not enough time build a bear none the less build some chemistry. I think its premature to judge them this early, but yes they were hyped and sure you are right about their success on the court thats what dictates everything

  2. #127
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    This year? Yes. Did you not see what I posted?
    DPG are we talkin about Miami or SA, im gettin lost with all the convos

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    Sorry for the confusion: First line was about the Spurs: While DPG have played together for a long time, they missed so many games that the chemistry was not really helpful.

    The 2nd part was a note to say a team like MIA, with no chemistry and huge adjustments made it to the finals.

  4. #129
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    Sorry for the confusion: First line was about the Spurs: While DPG have played together for a long time, they missed so many games that the chemistry was not really helpful.

    The 2nd part was a note to say a team like MIA, with no chemistry and huge adjustments made it to the finals.

    but dont you agree that having spent so much time together, that helps them play better together, as well as set a good example for the young ones coming in as well.

    but my point with miami was that the relationship wade and lbj had made them gel better together on the court, and that the miami players rallied around that, but still failed. some chemistry has to be there to get to the top, but championship teams have to all know how to play together, and it takes time. Although this might kill my argument completely I will be straight, did boston win after they acquired garnett/allen? that might of been the only time that ever happend

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    We are talking about making the 8th seed - not the finals. The 8th seed. With one of the most talented rosters in history.

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    We are talking about making the 8th seed - not the finals. The 8th seed. With one of the most talented rosters in history.
    disappointing, i agree. But it takes time. And kobe or not, i still believe if they play defense, which is doubtful i might add, they could still make a little noise.

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    I respect your points, (no troll) but i think they have played like 5 games together i cant remember, thats most def not enough time build a bear none the less build some chemistry. I think its premature to judge them this early, but yes they were hyped and sure you are right about their success on the court thats what dictates everything
    I'm talking about players 1 through 12. I just think Kobe is a poor leader when it comes to promoting team chemistry and cohesion throughout a team.

    With all the talent the Lakers have, should have still been fighting for 4th place right about now (even with all the injuries).

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    I'm talking about players 1 through 12. I just think Kobe is a poor leader when it comes to promoting team chemistry and cohesion throughout a team.

    With all the talent the Lakers have, should have still been fighting for 4th place right about now (even with all the injuries).
    so who led the lakers to winning in '09 '10? Thats silly to say hes a poor leader, when it comes to winning and work ethic, and sets a great example, sure hes not a team player all the time, but hes gotten it done in the past, and at his age now playing the heaviest minutes of his career by far, he is still top 3 IMHO(done snap).


    Injuries effect teams so much, players dont know the rotation or how many minutes to play, or where to be at what time. it takes a toll.

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    you want to bet? be back Dec 1st or sooner.
    Kobe is the most stubborn athlete in sports, so he'd probably force himself back by then even if he could barely run and jump. But the Kobe you'd get would be a complete s , which isn't a "comeback" in my mind.

    If you expect his return to be some type of Willis Reed morale boost, with Kobe playing a very limited role off the bench, then I do agree with you that he's back in 7 months. But if you think he's going to jump back into the line up, play 30 plus minutes a game, and start dropping 25 like he never left, you're seriously deluded. For Kobe to get back anywhere near an all-star level, it's gonna take at least a year.

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    Kobe is the most stubborn athlete in sports, so he'd probably force himself back by then even if he could barely run and jump. But the Kobe you'd get would be a complete s , which isn't a "comeback" in my mind.

    If you expect his return to be some type of Willis Reed morale boost, with Kobe playing a very limited role off the bench, then I do agree with you that he's back in 7 months. But if you think he's going to jump back into the line up, play 30 plus minutes a game, and start dropping 25 like he never left, you're seriously deluded. For Kobe to get back anywhere near an all-star level, it's gonna take at least a year.

    thats not what i said. i said be back, but unfortunately i have to agree with you. he will probably need some time to get back to tip top shape

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    the lakers are no more decent than the 04' team imho. only one of their current big 4 is still at prime age but had to play with injury through the majority of the season, while the total ages of the other 3 count up to over 100 years.

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