Planned Parenthood: If the abortion didn't work and the baby comes out alive-kill it

[spursncowboys]

Apologies -- we can't all be enlightened Ayn Rand advocates who never took a 101 course in philosophy.

I don't know where you get advocate from. Then again you are an idiot. I did take that course. Just not major in it like you. Congrats though on your Bachelors that gets you nothing in life. Good luch figuring out what a slippery slope is yet?

[spursncowboys]

Pro-life jeebo Ayn Rand advocates like spursncowboys and Wild Cobra are a shining example of unintentional comedy

Ayn Rand probably said more negative stuff about religion and god in a week than I have in my entire life, while she was outspokenly pro-choice and outright said "fetuses don't have rights" on several occasions. Her views on social issues were as left wing as it gets.

And... What I find humorous about college kids is everytime they learn something, they explain it as if others didn't already know that. My views on here have been developed through real life experiences and are not picked from a certain person, like say a philosopher or college professor. Thanks for the info about Ayn Rand. Real quick- any idea if the founding fathers were slave owners? Because I really want to idolize them but would feel real silly if they had any flaws. Then some intelligent college kid could really show me up.

[spursncowboys]

The answer is no.

Pretty clear. Don't even see why this would need to be asked.

So then how would you dispose of fetuses? Honest question.

[admiralsnackbar]

Congrats though on your Bachelors that gets you nothing in life.

What -- you think you're the only person whose mangling of philosophical ideas and rhetoric make me laugh? I get tons of pleasure out of my BA, baby.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And... What I find humorous about college kids is everytime they learn something, they explain it as if others didn't already know that.

The way jeebo s like you and WC fellate Ayn Rand's ideas in spite of how re ed she'd think you are because of your religious views, I'm willing to bet you didn't already know that.

My views on here have been developed through real life experiences and are not picked from a certain person, like say a philosopher or college professor.

right, your views on Christianity I'm sure were developed from "real life experience," not an upbringing that indoctrinated you. I'm curious what real life experiences made you believe stories about Noah building an arc and some dude living in a whale.

Thanks for the info about Ayn Rand.

Anytime.

Real quick- any idea if the founding fathers were slave owners? Because I really want to idolize them but would feel real silly if they had any flaws.

Me too. I'd feel pretty silly if I were to idolize slave owners. Not very good role models to look up to.

Then some intelligent college kid could really show me up.

Like I've already showed you up countless times when you come up with re ed stuff about how I've never had a job

[spursncowboys]

[spursncowboys]

What -- you think you're the only person whose mangling of philosophical ideas and rhetoric make me laugh? I get tons of pleasure out of my BA, baby.

What are you referring to?

[spursncowboys]

The way jeebo s like you and WC fellate Ayn Rand's ideas in spite of how re ed she'd think you are because of your religious views, I'm willing to bet you didn't already know that.

what's a jeebo ? I respect WC's opinion but rarely are ours similar. I don't know how she would have viewed my religion. I doubt I would care much though.

right, your views on Christianity I'm sure were developed from "real life experience," not an upbringing that indoctrinated you. I'm curious what real life experiences made you believe stories about Noah building an arc and some dude living in a whale.

What?? . You're off of this one. You talk about your upbringing and I'll bring up mine. I'm pretty sure your parents were the kind with a baby on board sticker on their volvo.

Like I've already showed you up countless times when you come up with re ed stuff about how I've never had a job

I don't really write on this forum with the intent of winning/losing an argument, however I don't see how you could win with 5th grade put downs and regurgitated community college professor spin.

[spursncowboys]

I get tons of pleasure out of my BA, baby.

such as

[admiralsnackbar]

such as

Such as rising above the fray?

If you'd ever cracked a book, you'd understand that the issues philosophers dealt with 2000 years ago haven't been solved and won't be solved -- everything is variation on a theme. If you think understanding where arguments are going to go has no practical application, you've never been involved in a successful business negotiation. If you can't follow or critically demand logical consistency, you've never understood why science is so compelling (and when it isn't).

Anyway... just let us know when you want to get back on topic.

[spursncowboys]

If you'd ever cracked a book, you'd understand that the issues philosophers dealt with 2000 years ago haven't been solved and won't be solved -- everything is variation on a theme. If you think understanding where arguments are going to go has no practical application, you've never been involved in a successful business negotiation. If you can't follow or critically demand logical consistency, you've never understood why science is so compelling (and when it isn't).

But you were wrong in your assumption, much like in all of these assumptions.

[boutons_deux]

Federal Judge Prevents Mississippi From Shutting Down Its Last Abortion Clinic



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...ic-stays-open/

[boutons_deux]

Amazing people setting themselves as targets for Kansas "Christ told me to murder all y'all" "Christian" bubbas

As George Tiller’s Wichita Clinic Reopens, ‘After Tiller’ Reframes The Abortion Debate


Dr. George Tiller’s abortion clinic in Wichita, shuttered after he was murdered at his church in 2009, will be reopening under the leadership of Julie Burkhart, who worked with Tiller when he was alive. In Burkhart’s conversation with Sheppard, she says that she decided to reopen the clinic in part because no one else would do it, and because she wants to reframe the debate about abortion care. “I think abortion is about motherhood,” she said. “Abortion is about motherhood because by and large women coming in to have abortions are concerned about the kind of life and the future for their children. Women are thinking in a very responsible manner when choosing that.”

These are important points, and ones made at greater length in one of the best do entaries I saw at the Sundance Film Festival in January, After Tiller. By first-time directors Martha Shane and Lana Wilson, After Tiller spends time not just with the four remaining doctors in the United States who are willing to perform late-term abortions—Burkhart’s clinic will not—but with many of their patients. It’s a set of perspectives that rarely enters the national debate about the legality of abortion procedures. The testimony of women and men who badly wanted children who have grown too sick to survive, and of doctors who help them when almost no one else will, may not convince the people who protest outside the four doctors’ clinics, and for whom the questions involved have simple and obvious answers.

etc

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013...ortion-debate/

[admiralsnackbar]

But you were wrong in your assumption, much like in all of these assumptions.

Then I congratulate you on your ability to disguise your intelligence and literacy -- you really had me going with that straw-man thing, ol' boy!

[Blake]

Then I congratulate you on your ability to disguise your intelligence and literacy -- you really had me going with that straw-man thing, ol' boy!

lol

[spursncowboys]

What a clown comment. Typical. I bet you think you come off as smart and not a moronic windbag.

[spursncowboys]

[admiralsnackbar]

What a clown comment. Typical. I bet you think you come off as smart and not a moronic windbag.

Nah -- I'm really just impressed by the lengths you'll go to to move the discussion away from the fact that you egregiously used a straw-man when could have just as easily said: "beg your pardon -- I did make an irrational appeal to everyone's emotions," and moved the discussion on from there. Ever hear of the first law of holes?

[Winehole23]

if you have something to bury it makes sense to keep digging.

[boutons_deux]

Federal Court Blocks Mississippi Admitting Privileges Law

The state of Mississippi cannot enforce onerous admitting privileges designed to close the state’s lone abortion clinic, ruled a federal court ruled Monday. The Jackson Women’s Health Organization (JWHO) has served women and families in Mississippi for 17 years, and has been the sole reproductive health care provider offering abortion in the state since 2002. The next nearest clinics for Mississippi residents are approximately three hours away, with most neighboring states requiring a mandatory 24-hour waiting period.

House Bill 1390, which was signed into law in April 2012, imposes arbitrary and medically unwarranted restrictions requiring that any physician performing abortions in the state be a board-certified or eligible obstetrician-gynecologist with admitting privileges at an area hospital. After passage, the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) on behalf of the JWHO and Dr. Willie Parker sued, arguing the law was uncons utional. In July 2012 a federal court partially blocked the law, barring the state from imposing criminal and civil penalties on the clinic doctors and staff during the administrative process of attempting to comply with the admitting privileges regulation. State officials were preparing to revoke the clinic’s license following a hearing set for Thursday, April 18, 2013.

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/20...ality+Check%29

racist, Confederate Mississippi

[Wild Cobra]

Link: Gosnell Trial Witness: Baby Abortion Survivor Was 'Swimming' in Toilet 'Trying to Get Out'