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    Total organization and team collapse, probably the worst I have ever seen in the Duncan era.

    It's starts at the top, tbh.

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    It's funny to read some of the comments of the posters which have changed from last night to today.

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    Heat are going to win anyways in the Finals this year! But I want us to get outta the first round atleast! Good lord 58 wins, you would figure we have to make it out of the first round! I would hope.

    Oh yeah, this too.
    First round will be easy. The Warriors likely as the easiest possible matchup.

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    This team was never championship caliber. It has had a history the last couple of years of being a great regular season team but is not built for playoff success. Health is an excuse because even healthy this team would not be getting out of the west. It is too soft and undersized on the frontline and those issues are still not fixed.

    The only way they got to the WCF last year was lucky weak matchups, the first tough team they faced the last two years they go down. It is the same roster as last year.

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    Spurs may need to go in a different direction this summer. I honestly think the Bucks can push them to 7 games right now let alone the Rockets/Warriors.
    Given how we've played against the Bucks in the Duncan Era, I'd say the bucks would have a 50-50 shot at the 03, 05 and 07 teams in a 7 game series...

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    Yeah Parker looks broken (again).

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    I don't know about you guys, but I'm still excited for the playoffs. We should have a relatively easy matchup in Golden State, and maybe by the end of that series we will have some health and momentum back. The Spurs (especially Tim) typically step up their game when the playoffs arrive. I would've liked to see some momentum going in, but it seems like they're just coasting into the #2 seed. I don't think this will end like 2011. This team has a run left in them.
    +1000000000000.

    I've been ready for the regular season to end for months and I'm definitely pumped for the playoffs. Yeah, we're stumbling in, but we should beat the Warriors and that should give us some momentum going into our second round matchup. I'm not that worried.

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    First round will be easy. The Warriors likely as the easiest possible matchup.
    So you would hope so. They need to find a bigtime rhythm in round one and get ready for round two, hopefully round one goes 5 or 6 so they can find something.

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    +1000000000000.

    I've been ready for the regular season to end for months and I'm definitely pumped for the playoffs. Yeah, we're stumbling in, but we should beat the Warriors and that should give us some momentum going into our second round matchup. I'm not that worried.
    No such thing as momemtum. The Spurs won 20 in a row last year, what happened with momentum there? An easy first round matchup does nothing if the team wins playing poorly. I expect the Spurs to go as far as the first tough healthy opponent they face. That is this current team's history. Same roster, I expect the same results- first tough challenge they fold.

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    Totally agree.

    At this point, I've moved on from any potential playoff matchups because the reality is this team isn't going very far as presently cons uted. As a matter of fact, I'm already looking to the offseason as to just HOW this team can get better. There's no doubt that this organization needs to rethink their player evaluation process. Their is a significant lack aggression, a lack toughness and of course a significant lack of athleticism with this roster. It's a fact that older players get injured more often, which means the Spurs have not done enough to get younger. I'm all for having smart players, but the Spurs are being routinely being dusted by the top contenders in the league because they have better players. There's no doubt that a semi-overhaul needs to take place. It should be an interesting summer.
    I started thinking about the off season at least a few weeks ago, when it became apparent to me that they were headed for another embarrassing, pathetic collapse, to end their season.

    I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I also think they need to take a look in the mirror at how they do things. What good has the constant babying (don't confuse this with my saying he should be running them into the ground or that they should play through legitimate injury in relatively meaningless regular season games; there's a medium) done this team in recent years? The season ends the same way every time, with them banged up anyway and their top players generally not in good enough shape to log the type of minutes they inevitably do once their backs are up against the wall in the playoffs. In general, the team lacks confidence, as well as both mental and physical toughness and I think part of the reason for that is because of the culture that's been fostered by the organization (particularly the coach) in recent years.

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    Funny thing is the West is so bad this year I could see the Spurs making the Conference Finals...seeing as their opponents are likely going to be GS/Houston/Denver. What a joke. Thunder would smash SA as soon as they meet up though...which is sad because they don't even have Harden this year.

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    I started thinking about the off season at least a few weeks ago, when it became apparent to me that they were headed for another embarrassing, pathetic collapse, to end their season.

    I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I also think they need to take a look in the mirror at how they do things. What good has the constant babying (don't confuse this with my saying he should be running them into the ground or that they should play through legitimate injury in relatively meaningless regular season games; there's a medium) done this team in recent years? The season ends the same way every time, with them banged up anyway and their top players generally not in good enough shape to log the type of minutes they inevitably do once their backs are up against the wall in the playoffs. In general, the team lacks confidence, as well as both mental and physical toughness and I think part of the reason for that is because of the culture that's been fostered by the organization (particularly the coach) in recent years.
    I agree. The team lacks the mental toughness and Pop says as much but continues to baby them. How can they have it if he doesn't have it himself? Winning a championship is hard work. It's not taking the season off and then just showing up healthy for the playoffs.

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    YOU HAD ONE JOB SAN ANTONIO! ONE DAMNED JOB! Now we can't make fun of the Lakers for not making the playoffs with their bloated payroll.
    So true but actually I think we can lump this loss with the loss to the Heat. People complain that the Spurs dont get enough respect but then we lose to the very teams that take the share of respect they should get. Pisses me off.

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    I started thinking about the off season at least a few weeks ago, when it became apparent to me that they were headed for another embarrassing, pathetic collapse, to end their season.

    I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I also think they need to take a look in the mirror at how they do things. What good has the constant babying (don't confuse this with my saying he should be running them into the ground or that they should play through legitimate injury in relatively meaningless regular season games; there's a medium) done this team in recent years? The season ends the same way every time, with them banged up anyway and their top players generally not in good enough shape to log the type of minutes they inevitably do once their backs are up against the wall in the playoffs. In general, the team lacks confidence, as well as both mental and physical toughness and I think part of the reason for that is because of the culture that's been fostered by the organization (particularly the coach) in recent years.

    For a team that has older veterans, I certainly understand the need to prioritize health. Yet, I always felt there was something uncomfortable about the manner in which Pop so routinely "tanked" games for the big picture. Other championship teams, in previous years, never did it so blatantly. Back when the Big Three were much younger, and the Spurs were legitimate championnship threats, it's no secret that the coaching staff didn't feel the need to "baby" them, as you put it. However the irony is the core players still got their share of rest because if you're blowing teams out, and they did have their share of blowouts because they were an elite team, the starters were usually pulled in the second half anyway.

    I agree with what you've stated. I wonder if Pop will start to rethink his strategy and begin to foster a culture change. That also includes the type of players he selects for the roster. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Pop wants a more stout defensive-oriented team, he's going to need better skilled, more athletic-type players to fill out the roster. If he wants to rest his older players, he's going to need younger players, who can begin their ascent into becoming the next core group of this team. Outside of Leonard, I don't see another young player who fits that description.

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    While the extra rest does not guarantee the core group is healthy at the end of the marathon, it almost undoubtedly helps prolong Timmy's career and his resurgence. So I am not sure what to ask for, whether to rest them routinely or to play them to the maximum.

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    this loss bothers me now. We're getting these s in round one and the Grizz may land the 3 seed. So much for an easy bracket.

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    This team was never championship caliber. It has had a history the last couple of years of being a great regular season team but is not built for playoff success. Health is an excuse because even healthy this team would not be getting out of the west. It is too soft and undersized on the frontline and those issues are still not fixed.

    The only way they got to the WCF last year was lucky weak matchups, the first tough team they faced the last two years they go down. It is the same roster as last year.
    Last year they were on a roll and healthy though, so last year was better IMO...
    this loss bothers me now. We're getting these s in round one and the Grizz may land the 3 seed. So much for an easy bracket.
    Never was going to be an easy bracket! NEVER. There is no easy bracket as bad as the SPURS are playing.

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    If the Spurs got Golden State then the winner of Houston/hobbled Denver they'd prolly get to the WCF. Prolly won't now.

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    What happened to your quick thoughts thread Timvp? Cant find the time to bother with that either?

    its no wonder why every team wants to tank to draw the Spurs, this team is atrocious.

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    Starts at the top

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    What happened to your quick thoughts thread Timvp? Cant find the time to bother with that either?
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    While the extra rest does not guarantee the core group is healthy at the end of the marathon, it almost undoubtedly helps prolong Timmy's career and his resurgence. So I am not sure what to ask for, whether to rest them routinely or to play them to the maximum.
    How are those stupid pills working out for you? Resting Duncan two games is going to prolong his career and resurgence? If you say so. But what the team really needs is to start playing like a team and not like a bunch of collective induals trying to their best demonstrtion of hero ball. You don't build team unity and cohesion from the bench.

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    For a team that has older veterans, I certainly understand the need to prioritize health. Yet, I always felt there was something uncomfortable about the manner in which Pop so routinely "tanked" games for the big picture. Other championship teams, in previous years, never did it so blatantly. Back when the Big Three were much younger, and the Spurs were legitimate championnship threats, it's no secret that the coaching staff didn't feel the need to "baby" them, as you put it. However the irony is the core players still got their share of rest because if you're blowing teams out, and they did have their share of blowouts because they were an elite team, the starters were usually pulled in the second half anyway.

    I agree with what you've stated. I wonder if Pop will start to rethink his strategy and begin to foster a culture change. That also includes the type of players he selects for the roster. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Pop wants a more stout defensive-oriented team, he's going to need better skilled, more athletic-type players to fill out the roster. If he wants to rest his older players, he's going to need younger players, who can begin their ascent into becoming the next core group of this team. Outside of Leonard, I don't see another young player who fits that description.
    I agree if Pop wants more rest start blowing out teams. At best you are reducing injury likelihood but you are really not doing anything for the playoffs. Pop's strategy carries over to the playoffs. When the team is down big Pop more often than not throws in the towel because he doesn't want to waste energy trying to win a game that might be a loss.

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    When the team is down big Pop more often than not throws in the towel because he doesn't want to waste energy trying to win a game that might be a loss.
    Pop is like a poker player who plays the odds and often folds for the good of the big picture. He doesn't use up his money (i.e players in this analogy) when he doesn't have a likely winning hand.

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    you gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to go buy a damn forward who can shoot, pass and rebound and be a tough nutt of defence

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