Lol @ anyone who thought he had a chance been telling people this weeks they don't listen..
Lol @ anyone who thought he had a chance been telling people this weeks they don't listen..
lol now it's about the team not the stats...holy if only they had that mind set a few years ago when the Spurs had the best defense with Tim Duncan anchoring it.
There was never any point at which he had a chance. He's only ever been in the top 3 once in his career...regardless people just assumed this year was different for some bizarre reason..
There are two groups with this, and there is a sensible way in which he's not DPOY: Minutes. Even if he's been a better defender than Marc, He's done it for far fewer minutes, and that matters.
I think Duncan as 1st Team Centre(All-NBA), Marc as DPOY and 1st team Defensive Centre is the best way to split them.
Tony Allen plays 26 mpg..he finished a close second in that poll
Complete in bull . So you are telling me a guy can have much better defensive stats, and in less time, but still not get DPOY? Wtf gives? This is robbery. Duncan is getting ed. Think of what this would do for him on the list of all time greats. I simply cannot believe this. This was Duncan's award and he earned it. I guess the team crumbling cost him, even though he brought it every night. Even though Chandler and Camby won the award on mediocre defensive teams. Chandler didn't do either. I cannot believe this.
Good rant
me and one on it![]()
I don't know why this such a ing surprise tho. I mean I understand bring upset, but shocked? No way; the dude consistently finished behind the Theo Ratliffs, Andrei Kirilenkos, and Cambys of the world during his prime...I dunno why people all of a sudden thought it would change now.
Marc Gasol averages 14.1 points 7.8 rebounds 1.7 blocks per game .On the other hand , his mate Tony Allen just averages 8.9 points along with 1.5 steals to finish this season,both of them don't have big number to convince people to vote for them as DPOY .
Compared my man Timmy with them and in less playing minutes situation, Duncan ranks as the NBA's top big man in player efficiency rating at 23.8 with 17.8 points and almost 10 rebounds as well as 2.7 blocks per game.
The spurs end up with the 2nd seed to get into playoffs which is still better than Grizzlies 's 5th, can you please find out a reason why Marc Gasol and Tony Allen are the better option to win DPOY over Timmy?
Wow. I just lost the last nugget of respect for ESPN and their so-called "analysts". Duncan was far and away the best defensive player in the league this season.
Just a thought, it's probably not a good thing that Tim is playing less minutes than Gasol for the award. That means Gasol is out there on the floor more playing D and maybe having a bigger overall impact.
Because neither PPG, RPG, player efficiency or team position have anythig to do with DPOY.
that's a pathetic turnout but tbh it's expected considering Duncan has no DPOY. If you listened to NBA podcasts like Bill Simmons ESPN podcast or the CBS Basketball podcast they all say Duncan was never really the no.1 pick for DPOY. Zach Lowe even mentioned the minutes argument and compared Gasol and Duncan to A- and A students...you would want the A- student (Gasol) because he played something like 700 more minutes than the A student (Duncan)
Yeesh
Better make it to 1st team All-NBA
i'd love to hear the arguments for larry sanders and tyson chandler![]()
yeah, cause it makes sense to vote for tony allen then, also it makes sense to vote for the number 2 big man on the team or to vote for a player playing with the best defensive pg and best defensive sg along with the best rebounder in the league
.. a big man that doesn't stand out neither on blocks or rebounds or team wins for that matter. Don't get me wrong i love marc as a player, but he has no business being ahead of timmy.
End of season defensive win shares.
P. George
M. Gasol
K. Durant
T. Duncan
R. Hibbert
M. Conley
D. Howard
Z. Randolph
D. West
L. James
Passes the smell test if not the homer test.
yall still care what the nba does with their awards? the fact that kobe was on all defensive 1st team year after year says enough about the nba
No one campaigned for Duncan. There was no hype. The Spurs stumbling into the playoffs didn't help either.
Even bruce bowen turned coat.
LOL Gasol wasnt even in the top 3 in rebounding and blocked shots
There isn't one standard way to handle DPOY voting. One could vote how I said, another probably thinks it's time for a guard to get DPOY. I don't know.
I mean I obviously want Tim to be DPOY, so I'm just trying to make some sense out of the voting. I do think basing defense on box score stats is overrated though.
With the way Pop manages this team the only individual award the Spurs can win is Coach of the Year.
The DPOY has always been BS, just for the fact that Duncan never won it in his prime. Gasol is the favorite? Gotta be effin kidding me. He plays with Conley and Allen for Christ's sake. For a big man, he needs to completely own the paint( rebounding, blocking shots,etc.) He doesn't though.
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