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    So...

    You agree, it's not just minorities.
    So you agree it causes problems for those other than minorities?

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    Oh crap...WH!

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    So you agree it causes problems for those other than minorities?
    Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.

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    Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.
    you're pointing out nothing

    Repugs/ALEC are targeting Dem voters: blacks, hispanics, sick, old, poor, young, etc.

    Your position on this is about as rational as your defense of drunk raping and drunk driving

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    Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.
    It's a shot gun fired into a crowd to kill a perceived problem. Unfortunately:
    a. The problem doesn't exist
    b. The solution kills alot of bystanders.

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    uh oh, the Repug party's thought dictator ain't happy

    Limbaugh: GOP’s ‘Autopsy’ Is Wrong

    Rush Limbaugh blasted the Republican Party for saying in a new report that conservatives were “narrow-minded” and “out of touch.”

    The Republican National Committee released earlier on Monday an “autopsy” of its 2012 election failures and pinned the blame on the party being out of touch with voters, particularly minorities.

    Limbaugh said the opposite was true. “We are in touch with the founding of this country. We are in touch with the greatness in this country and its people,” the popular radio commentator said, according to Politico.

    Limbaugh said that if the party moves away from championing values, such as traditional marriage, it will lose support among its base.

    “If the party makes that [gay marriage] something official that they support, they’re not going to pull the sexual activist voters away from the Democrat Party, but they are going to cause their base to stay home and throw their hands up in utter frustration,” Limbaugh said.

    Limbaugh said it was party leaders who were out of touch with its own base. “Whether they like it or not, the Republican Party’s base is sufficiently large that they cannot do without them and their problem is they don’t like them. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/li...n=widgetphase1

    Works at the national level, but at the Repug (Confederate) state level, with insane gerrymandering and voter suppression, Repugs are ACTUALLY doing wonderfully.

    "their problem is they don’t like them." never have never will. As dubya said to NAACP: "I value the black vote" (not black people). Repugs are the party of the 1% suckering in single-issue, ignorant bubbas with the their social issues and "Christian" hating.
    No, Rush, you're not gong to pull the " sexual activists" away from the Dems any more than the Dems are going to pull the Religious Right away from the GOP. Guess what, Rush? They're not the only ones who support gay marriage. It's become a centrist issue, and it's keeping you from getting a lot of middle of the road votes. THEY'RE the ones you can get by softening your stance.

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    t's become a centrist issue, and it's keeping you from getting a lot of middle of the road votes. THEY'RE the ones you can get by softening your stance.
    Bammmm....the controlled assault gun issue is a middle of the road issue too, but the NRA and NGA, extremists groups, think it's the other way around...

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    The G.O.P.'s Bachmann Problem

    The current intramural squabbling on the right is just too delicious for words. At least for nice words.

    Senator John McCain called the far-right darlings Senator Rand Paul, Senator Ted Cruz and Representative Justin Amash "wacko birds" earlier this month. (McCain later apologized for that burst of honesty and candor.)

    Ann Coulter used her Conservative Political Action Conference speech to take a shot at New Jersey's governor, Chris Christie, who was not invited to speak this year. Coulter quipped: "Even CPAC had to cut back on its speakers this year, by about 300 pounds." What a lovely woman.

    Also at CPAC, the half-term ex-governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, took a whack at Karl Rove, challenging him to run for office himself. "Buck up or stay in the truck," she said with her usual Shakespearean eloquence. Rove shot back that if he were to run and win, he'd at least finish his term. Ouch.

    Donald Trump took to Twitter recently to call the conservative blogger Mic e Malkin a "dummy" who was "born stupid." It's hard to know whom to side with when two bullies battle.

    But all this name-calling, as fun as it is to watch, is just a sideshow. The main show is the underlying agitation.

    The Republican Party is experiencing an existential crisis, born of its own misguided incongruity with modern American culture and its insistence on choosing intransigence in a dynamic age of fundamental change. Instead of turning away from obsolescence, it is charging headlong into it, becoming more strident and pushing away more voters whom it could otherwise win.

    Andrew Kohut, the founding director of the Pew Research Center, pointed out in The Washington Post on Friday that the party's ratings "now stand at a 20-year low," and that is in part because "the outsize influence of hard-line elements in the party base is doing to the G.O.P. what supporters of Gene McCarthy and George McGovern did to the Democratic Party in the late 1960s and early 1970s - radicalizing its image and standing in the way of its revitalization."

    And too many of those hard-liners have a near-allergic reaction to the truth.

    A prime example is Michele Bachmann, the person who convened the Tea Party Caucus in Congress and a Republican candidate for president last year.

    She burst back on the scene with a string of lies and half-truths that could have drawn a tsk tsk from Tom Sawyer.

    PolitiFact rated two of her claims during her CPAC speech last Saturday as "pants on fire" false. The first was that 70 cents of every dollar that's supposed to go to the poor actually goes to salaries and pensions of bureaucrats. The second was that scientists could have a cure for Alzheimer's in 10 years if it were not for "a cadre of overzealous regulators, excessive taxation and greedy litigators."

    She also said during that speech that President Obama was living "a lifestyle that is one of excess" in the White House, detailing how many chefs he had, and so on.

    The Washington Post gave that claim four Pinocchios, and pointed out that "during last year's G.O.P. presidential race, Bachmann racked up the highest ratio of Four-Pinocchio comments, so just about everything she says needs to be checked and double-checked before it is reported."

    And in a speech Thursday on the House floor, she said of the federal health care law:

    "The American people, especially vulnerable women, vulnerable children, vulnerable senior citizens, now get to pay more and they get less. That's why we're here, because we're saying let's repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens."

    Factcheck.org pointed out that her "facts" didn't match her hyperbole.

    Last year The Washington Post quoted Jim Drinkard, who oversees fact-checking at The Associated Press, as saying, "We had to have a self-imposed Michele Bachmann quota in some of those debates."

    It's sad when you are so fact-challenged that you burn out the fact-checkers.

    People like Bachmann represent everything that is wrong with the Republican Party. She and her colleagues are hyperbolic, reactionary, ill-informed and ill-intentioned, and they have become synonymous with the Republican brand. We don't need all politicians to be Mensa-worthy, but we do expect them to be cogent and competent.

    When all the dust settles from the current dustup within the party over who holds the mantle and which direction to take, Republicans will still be left with the problem of what to do with people like Bachmann.

    And as long as the party has Bachmanns, it has a problem.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/article;js...&sub=Columnist

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    Bammmm....the controlled assault gun issue is a middle of the road issue too, but the NRA and NGA, extremists groups, think it's the other way around...
    No, we just think you're a moron.


    "An assault gun is a gun or howitzer mounted on a motor vehicle or armored chassis, designed for use in the direct fire role in support of infantry when attacking other infantry or fortified positions"

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    Yay more semantic arguments and talking about people.

    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

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    ^^^ seems more a slap at people than a comment about ideas or events, tbh

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    Read aloud deadpan at a comedy club, the RNC’s nearly hundred-page report, a.k.a its “Growth and Opportunity Project,” would be surefire stand-up material. With its talk of “Group Listening Sessions” and its call for an “Inclusion Council,” it reads like a Maoist reeducation plan, or perhaps a liberal affirmative-action treatise.

    There’s talk of hiring Hispanic and African-American “communications directors and political directors” and of finding “female spokespeople” to explain the party’s views to America’s female people.

    (Women “represent more than half the voting population in the country” is one of the report’s believe-it-or-not revelations.)

    We’re also informed that “America looks different” than it used to in the good old days and that “Obama was seen as ‘cool’” in 2008. Who’d have thunk it?

    To help counter these weird developments, the party chairman, Reince Priebus, announced that he wants “to hold Hackathons in tech-savvy cities like San Francisco, Austin, Denver, and New York — to forge relationships with developers and stay on the cutting edge.” (Could he not find a single red hackathon-worthy city?)

    Perhaps what’s most revealing about the report, however, is that it has already exacerbated the divide between the Republican Establishment, exemplified by Priebus and the report co-author Ari Fleischer, and the party’s base.

    The text virtually ignores the party’s Congressional leadership, the Christian right, and the tea party, while repeatedly praising George W. Bush as a Republican role model.

    No wonder the grassroots right is already ridiculing Priebus’s project more venomously than the mostly amused Democrats.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...d-america.html

    lipstick on a pig

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    More Repug reachout to Hispanics:

    GOP Congressman Refuses To Apologize For Calling Latinos ‘ s’

    “During a sit down interview with Ketchikan Public Radio this week, I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California,” Young said in the statement. “I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect.”

    Such outreach has had little success so far, and the GOP is still plagued by racial inhospitality.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...tino- s/

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    Frankly, I think more and more people are coming around to the realization that neither party wants to (or even can?) change the status quo when it comes to the few interests that control a large part of the economy. Banks will keep on being too big to fail, too big to prosecute, large multinationals will keep on outsourcing or outright replacing workers with automation to please Wall Street, the MIC will keep milking the government for every penny they have, etc etc etc.

    Guys like Bernanke that walked into the Fed with Bush and still remains with Barry is a great example of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'.

    IMO, people in general are quite skeptic of *any* claims from *any* party at this point when it comes to the economy, supply side, stimulus, and any other theory making the rounds. Ultimately, you get the impression that you, the citizen, are gonna get screwed regardless, and the few up top will get the cozy deals. Happened with the TARP, Obamacare, etc. and I think it's a large part of why people overall hate Congress, no matter the party.

    As far as the GOP is concerned, IMO, they need to go away from stupid generalizations and dumbed down messages (like comparing the US economy with a household economy), and evolve a bit on social issues. Not full blown 'we love abortions', but at least weed out morons like Akin from the party. That'd be a good start.

    The 2016 election is the GOPs to lose, IMO. But we've just seen that if they try hard enough, they lose it.
    Great post

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    After RNC Calls For Hispanic Outreach, (Confederate) Republican Governor Eliminates Latino Affairs Office

    The Republican National Committee devoted much of the attention of its “autopsy” report to improving party outreach to people of color. The report noted it is “imperative that the RNC changes how it engages with Hispanic communities to welcome in new members of our Party.” Yet, if the autopsy report had any effect at all, it appears to be short-lived. Since last week, top Republicans have dodged discussing immigration reform with citizenship, while one congressman used a racial slur to describe Latinos.


    North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory’s (R) contribution to this effort is to unexpectedly close the state’s Latino Affairs office, an office that normally engaged with Latino leaders on policy, offfered bilingual assistance for disaster victims, and collected demographic statistics on the state’s 800,000 Latino residents

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...tino-outreach/

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    New Hampshire Republican refers to women as “vaginas” in email to lawmakers

    New Hampshire State Rep. Peter Hansen referred to women as “vaginas” in an email to colleagues sent on the legislature’s official internal listserv. In response to a message debating a “stand your ground” measure being considered by the State House, the Republican lawmaker wrote:

    What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT, Germany, and the bowels of Amsterdam? Why children and vagina’s of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims.
    Hansen’s use of synecdoche outraged his Democratic and Republican colleagues, prompting Democratice State Rep. Rick Watrous to respond:

    “Children and vagina’s”??!! Are you really using “vaginas” as a crude catch-all for women? Really? Please think before you send out such offensive language on the legislative listserve.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/new_..._to_lawmakers/


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    Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully

    Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters


    The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

    “What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

    It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

    But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

    If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections
    , Braynon said.

    “We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...nguage-voting/



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    Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully

    Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters


    The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

    “What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

    It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

    But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

    If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections
    , Braynon said.

    “We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...nguage-voting/




    You have a sickness and need help.

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    Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully

    Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters


    The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

    “What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

    It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

    But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

    If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections
    , Braynon said.

    “We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...nguage-voting/

    I would not take any Republican at their word on such a thing at this point.

    It would seem they are reaping the whirlwind from their Southern Strategy.

    Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it,[9] but merely popularized it.[10] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:

    From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    Ish.

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    You have a sickness and need help.
    when I slap, or rather Repugs/tea baggers slap themselves, you righties gotta work on your defenses.

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    when I slap, or rather Repugs/tea baggers slap themselves, you righties gotta work on your defenses.
    I am not a righty. Maybe if you read some of my statements you would pick that up. I like to rid DC of left and right. Both are most corrupt sob's.

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    GOP Immigration Guru Insists DREAMers Should Self-Deport

    On Monday, Sen. Durbin (D-IL), a long-time advocate of the DREAM Act, strongly rebuked a GOP witness for opposing a pathway to citizenship for young immigrants brought into the country illegally by their parents. The witness, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, rose to prominence for advising Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” immigration policy during the 2012 presidential campaign and is the architect of both Arizona’s infamous “show your papers” law (SB 1070) and the Republican Party’s harsh immigration platform.


    Speaking at the Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing, Kobach insisted that DREAM eligible applicants, many of whom have lived in the United States for most of their lives, should not be rewarded for the “sins of their parents.” Instead, DREAMers should go back to their parents’ country of origin, Kobach said, and “get in line with the rest of their countrymen.”

    “That just defies basic compassion,” Durbin shot back, pointing to to Gabby Pacheco, an undo ented immigrant brought to America at the age of eight from Ecuador, who was testifying alongside Kobach. “She’s never known any other country,” Durbin explained, “this is her home.”



    Kobach responded by reviving self-deportation, arguing that “if you ratchet up the penalties for violating the law, people choose to leave.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/immigration...d-self-deport/



    "We're STILL in Kansas, bozo"

    Repugs simply can't help themselves

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    Conservative Group Photoshops Black Woman's Face Out of Photo in Anti-Voting Rights Mailer




    http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-an...tter830073&t=7


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    The 11 Most Heartless Republican Amendments To The Immigration Bill

    1. Undo ented immigrants can never become citizens. “No person who is or has previously been willfully present in the United States will [sic] not in lawful status…shall be eligible for United States citizenship.” Offered by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX).

    2. Mandatory DNA testing.
    Registered provisional immigrant applicants must submit a DNA sample to the Department of Justice to compare against the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) at the FBI. Offered by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT).

    3. Zero assistance.
    Would prohibit undo ented immigrants who earn provisional legal status from applying for permanent residence if they qualify for state means-tested assistance, the supplemental nutrition assistance program (SNAP), the temporary assistance for needy families program (TANF), or supplemental security income benefits (SSI). Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL).

    4. Bans humanitarian travel.
    Immigrants who are in provisional legal status but have to go back to their home countries for a humanitarian reason (to visit a sick relative, for instance) would be prohibited from re-entering the United States. Currently, the provisional legal status includes an authorization for travel.Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

    5. Guts family re-unification.
    The green card distribution for some foreigners relies on a point allocation system in which a certain number of points must be ac ulated before those individuals can qualify for a merit-based visa. This amendment would eliminate points for siblings of U.S. citizens and points for individuals from low-sending countries from counting towards merit-based immigrant visas. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL).

    6. In-person interviews for 11 million immigrants.
    Sure to slow down the process time for 11 million immigrants, an in-person interview would be required to determine one’s eligibility requirements for provisional legal status. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL).

    7. Limits visas to South Korea.
    In an effort to force South Koreans to buy beef from the United States again, this amendment threatens to withhold E-5 visas from South Korea immigrants until the country removes its age-based import restrictions on beef. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

    8. Enforces head-of-household deportation and causes family separations.
    Under the current bill, immigration judges have the authority to decline to deport individuals if they believe that the immigrant’s removal will result in hardship for his or her U.S. citizen child. This amendment would waive this judicial discretion and allow the deportation to occur. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

    9. Prevents low-income undo ented immigrants from seeking legalization.
    The amendment would require individuals applying for provisional legal status to maintain regular employment and a “regular income or resources” above 400 percent of the poverty line (more than $92,000 for a family of four). Under the current bill, immigrants must earn at 100 percent of the poverty line or show regular employment. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL).

    10. Restricts visas for refugees.
    This amendment would prohibit individuals from applying for refugee and asylum status until one year after the Director of National Intelligence submits a review related to the Boston bombings to Congress. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

    11. Allows for racial profiling.
    Would allow Federal law enforcements to take into account an individual’s country of origin when allowing them into the country. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

    http://thinkprogress.org/immigration...igration-bill/

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