Looks like Reid doesn't have the votes...

[CosmicCowboy]

The same poll had two questions with completely contradictory answers. I pointed that out to you. No need to get all butthurt.

BTW, you lost.

Bwahahahaahahahahaha!

[BobaFett1]

Not in the form of the bill that failed yesterday, but what is your point? The poll I posted showed 92% of Americans support background checks for ALL gun buyers. The bill that failed yesterday, which both you an the NRA are celebrating, would have expanded background checks. You are celebrating special intersts thwarting the will of the people because you agree with those special interests. Just call a spade a spade dude.

Mitch is a old fart.

[Th'Pusher]

The same poll had two questions with completely contradictory answers. I pointed that out to you. No need to get all butthurt.

Not really. The NRA has previously supported background checks. Regardless, when specifically asked about background checks for all gun buyers 92% support. Sorry, but you're one intellectually dishonest mother er.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not really. The NRA has previously supported background checks. Regardless, when specifically asked about background checks for all gun buyers 92% support. Sorry, but you're one intellectually dishonest mother er.

[TSA]

Can you explain whats wrong with the polls that show support is at 90% instead of just saying the number is bull ?

Sure.


"From January 30 - February 4, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,772 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.3 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia and the nation as a public service and for research."

[Th'Pusher]

Sure.


"From January 30 - February 4, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,772 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.3 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia and the nation as a public service and for research."

And that makes the results of the poll bull how? Sample size? Not a representative sample? You do know how polling works, right?

[Th'Pusher]

Ahh, the old butthurt meme (read white flag).

[TSA]

And that makes the results of the poll bull how? Sample size? Not a representative sample? You do know how polling works, right?

Yes to all of the above. Anyways, this discussion is a waste of my time, you're elected officials have spoken. You, and Obama need to get over it. It was put to a vote and failed, that's how government works. Time to move on.

[CosmicCowboy]

And that makes the results of the poll bull how? Sample size? Not a representative sample? You do know how polling works, right?

Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia and the nation

The language certainly suggests that the polling was done disproportionally in the northeast and Florida

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes to all of the above. Anyways, this discussion is a waste of my time, you're elected officials have spoken. You, and Obama need to get over it. It was put to a vote and failed, that's how government works. Time to move on.

wasn't even close.

Hopefully the idiots that have been hoarding ammo will finally stop.

[Th'Pusher]

Yes to all of the above. Anyways, this discussion is a waste of my time, you're elected officials have spoken. You, and Obama need to get over it. It was put to a vote and failed, that's how government works. Time to move on.

My only dog in this hunt is my dislike for special interest groups dictating policy against what appears to be the will of the people. And when I see people like CC, who claim to be rational and pragmatic, cheering this type of stuff on, it's a little perplexing.

[Th'Pusher]

The language certainly suggests that the polling was done disproportionally in the northeast and Florida

PA, FL, OH, VA are not exactly bastions of liberal thought.

[CosmicCowboy]

My only dog in this hunt is my dislike for special interest groups dictating policy against what appears to be the will of the people. And when I see people like CC, who claim to be rational and pragmatic, cheering this type of stuff on, it's a little perplexing.

In my opinion it's pretty simple. The feds have a pretty simple setup now as it relates to guns. The states are well within their rights to regulate guns more strenuously as they see fit above and beyond the fed rules as long as the laws they pass can pass 2nd amendment scrutiny. If you want to live in a state where guns are heavily regulated that option is certainly available to you. I just don't think the people in the Northeast have a right to tell Texas how to regulate guns. And unfortunately the only people that comply with gun laws are law abiding citizens. The criminals are already criminals...they don't give a about gun laws.

[CosmicCowboy]

PA, FL, OH, VA are not exactly bastions of liberal thought.

Weren't all the states listed "blue" states in the last election?

[Th'Pusher]

In my opinion it's pretty simple. The feds have a pretty simple setup now as it relates to guns. The states are well within their rights to regulate guns more strenuously as they see fit above and beyond the fed rules as long as the laws they pass can pass 2nd amendment scrutiny. If you want to live in a state where guns are heavily regulated that option is certainly available to you. I just don't think the people in the Northeast have a right to tell Texas how to regulate guns. And unfortunately the only people that comply with gun laws are law abiding citizens. The criminals are already criminals...they don't give a about gun laws.

Would you eliminate the current federal law requiring a background check and leave that up to the states as well?

[CosmicCowboy]

I can honestly say I have an issue with the federal government stockpiling data on citizens period.

[Th'Pusher]

I can honestly say I have an issue with the federal government stockpiling data on citizens period.

Are they stockpiling data in the existing required background check system?

[CosmicCowboy]

Are they stockpiling data in the existing required background check system?

I don't know.

Are they?

[Th'Pusher]

I don't know.

Are they?

Probably. They have to know whose guns to confiscate.

[CosmicCowboy]

Probably. They have to know whose guns to confiscate.

Probably not in my lifetime, but then again I never thought the USA would elect such a fervent anti gun President, either. Of course he didn't play THAT card until he got elected again.

[cheguevara]

as a nonbiased spectator, I agree Obama's war on guns is not only blatantly politicized, but a very bad choice. Even El Che knows you don't mess with americans and their guns. They rather lose every other right given to them, including the right to , piss and freely, but they won't give up their guns. It's ingrained in their DNA. Not surprised a Kenyan failed to see this, but LOL at his staff.

You can quote me on this. Obama is going nowhere on this war. And it will just be a huge distraction from more important matters and a huge waste of taxpayers $.

Hopefully somehow the Kenyan will see the light soon and move on to better arenas.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Probably not in my lifetime, but then again I never thought the USA would elect such a fervent anti gun President, either. Of course he didn't play THAT card until he got elected again.

fervent

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Weren't all the states listed "blue" states in the last election?

what do swing state mean

[CosmicCowboy]

fervent

fer·vent
/ˈfərvənt/
Adjective
Having or displaying a passionate intensity.
Synonyms
ardent - hot - passionate - fervid - fiery - torrid

[CosmicCowboy]

what do swing state mean

They sure looked blue on the map after the election.