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All in all, Jack couldn't accept the fact that his role had diminished on a championship caliber (at one point) team. He brought up the Bobcats & the Warriors how he helped them to the playoffs but he was one of the best players on those teams. As much as I love Jack, his at ude and Pop's stubbornness ed up this partnership. Then again, if the McGrady thing works out, it was a blessing in disguise. It all depends now on how the McGrady thing works out because it seems the Spurs were interested in McGrady for a while. Just sayin....
Show him Tmac show him
Íncredibly stupid.
Jax may have played 20mins/game early in the season but those minutes were dwindling as the season went on...and there was a reason for that. There's still a few that thought he would "flip the switch" in the playoffs, but he's never looked as sluggish as he does now. It was painful watching him try to keep up. With his slow ass release, he also needs space. I could see him trying to go all out hero ball in the postseason, trying to replicate his game 6..I'll take the chance with kawhi.
Wow, dude needs to work harder.
This summer Jack was going to have to think about his career as an NBA player vs. that of a rapper. Dude doesn't work on his game during the summer but he'll drop some beats. If this season has shown anything it's that Jack could use the practice during the summer - even if he does turn it up in the playoffs, how much better could he do (Spurs want a ring, not a Grammy) Also, from what I recall everyone else takes it on themselves to stay on top/improve for the team during that time. The team doesn't need his lack of a work ethic infecting its youngsters and veterans. Next thing you know all the players will start making ridiculous statements.
While a lot of SA fans kept saying that he was coasting, I think it's pretty fair to say now that he sucked all year. He looked absolutely terrible this season.
He didn't do anything to deserve more minutes. He was pretty much the worst SA player of Pop's rotation and still believed he deserved more minutes. I am glad he is gone tbh. Pop is absolutely right in this case.
And he is still delusional about his future. He truly believes a lot of teams will pursue him in the off-season, but he will have a hard time to find a team, even for the min. There's no worse mixture than a washed up vet who happens to be a head-case.
I wonder if TD still thinks Cap'n Jackass is an ultimate teammate?
Horry never thought he was better than Duncan, and he never ed about PT. He knew his role.
i'm a huge stak5 fan but it was obvious all season long that he took a few steps back from last year. i remember watching a vid in the offseason where he talks about how he doesn't workout in the offseason and never has. i think it was the vid where tj ford was working with him on shooting drills and stak had his homeboy collecting rebounds smh. that lack of work ethic and him being 35 finally caught up with him. dude was stiff with his movements and even slower than usual. i think he has more passion for rapping than he does playing basketball at this juncture.
Last edited by Trill Clinton; 04-19-2013 at 09:05 AM.
Pop ed up. To insist a mofo like Jack admit that someone else is better than him or to get your bags, it's obvious what Jack would choose.
Player who could not accept a lesser role he deserved.
I have no remorse. He left us no choice tbh
That turned out to be great tbh. We almost went to the Finals last year, we wouldn't have been as close to that with got RJ imho.
Why are people assuming that the version Jack told is 100-percent correct? It seems likely to me that Pop didn't actually ask Jack if he thought he was better than Green or Ginobili. I imagine that Jack just took it that way. Jack seems to have a distorted view of his basketball reality, and I could see him taking Pop telling him to accept his role and be a team player as an attack on his self-worth.
Jack may have thought that to accept a backup role would be to admit that the starter was a better player. If he said that, I can imagine Pop bringing up Ginobili and Green as examples of how to play roles without worrying about who's better. Pop may have been trying to tell him that comparing himself to other players isn't the way to go for a team. So, "You don't know your role," wasn't about skill; it was about at ude.
Pop certainly wanted Jack to play well enough to where he wouldn't have to rely on Green and Leonard as much as he's going to have to. All Pop needed to give Jack a lot of rope was a better at ude. If Jack flippantly tossed away that lifeline, then Pop had to get rid of him. Even if Jack "came up big" in the playoffs, it wouldn't be worth disrupting Green and/or Leonard's confidence or mess up bench chemistry (which really had seemed off). Jack simply wasn't worth the trouble, six threes against OKC notwithstanding.
People are interpreting my comments wrong. I never said the RJ-Jax trade was a failed trade. In fact, I was one of the biggest Jack defenders all year as evident with my arguments with every Jack hater.
I was just pointing out a certain poster in the trade thread that said Jack was going to have ego issues and everyone including me scoffed at him.
Just replyin tbh. No hate no disagreement
I was just pointing out a certain poster in the trade thread that said Jack was going to have ego issues and everyone including me scoffed at him.
Jack on drugs?
Really silly of him timing wise to go off 3 games before the playoffs.
Unless 'Zit was telling Jax he had to be behind Bonner.
Just replyin tbh. No hate no disagreement
Cheers tbh ma .
am i the only one who caught this?
if he didnt want to be part of the team, him. SJAX has always been one of my fave players of all time, but, i say again, if he didn't want to be here, him.“It was talked about before the all-star break, before the trade deadline…about me not wanting to be here and me going to other teams, but they wouldn’t do it then,” Stephen explained. “If they would have done it then, I would be on another team right now.”
I think Gelabale signed much earlier than that, but they could have actually brought TMac in when he was finished in China.
Jax just wanted more minutes so he could justify another big contract somewhere and he didn't get them because they were not warranted, he didn't deserve them and it showed. I think his game suffered a lot too because he really didn't care if he was jacking up shots and missing or not. There were flashes, moments where he'd go strong but you could tell he was not feeling it. I'm surprised the Spurs didn't trade him or do something sooner with T-Mac or someone else but I think they were really under the impression he'd get his act together especially with the playoffs around the corner.
I think with all the crap the spurs were going through Jax drew that last straw with Pop with complaining about minutes and was then waived. Had Parker been healthy, had they been producing more wins at the end of the season then I think they would have just swept it under the rug until the offseason.
I just realized it should say "waived" not "released." F'n wrestling.....
He was playing very aggressive and hard, but don't argue with Pop. Pop is stubborn and doesn't let down.
He was shooting 37% and Pop STILL gave him 20 minutes a game when he probably didn't deserve that. It wasn't enough for Jack and he balked.
Well said. And Spurs should've just traded his expiring contract then if they were already having disagreements, and got a much needed veteran backup PG and then signed TMac then. He could've been more acclimated to the Spurs system. I really would like TMac to take Kawhi on his wings and show him some postup moves, reading D's and facilitating more. I hope he re-sign for the next two years. Kawhi could really learn a lot from him. Not to mention TMac's game is still pretty good, watching his highlights in the Chinese league, granted it's against weaker defense, but the shooting is still there, his ballhandling, moves are still there, and he still has hops. TMac > SJAX positive influence to the younger players. Defense and toughness, I have to give it to Jack. If we had them both, everybody healthy, I'd be putting them to win it all.
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