Lakers: Wilt Gasol..

[ambchang]

You asked a question.
I answered.
I was not excusing his poor play ... just reporting what he said.
Come on Amb, you are better than this.
LOL Spur fan calling out another fanbase for using the injury card or excuse making

You found me using the injury card a lot wrt the Spurs?

[Killakobe81]

You found me using the injury card a lot wrt the Spurs?

Nah excuse making is your game ...you damn good too. Using win shares and the like to excuse the bottom line ...

[ambchang]

Nah excuse making is your game ...you damn good too. Using win shares and the like to excuse the bottom line ...

And you using 5>4 as an excuse? I don't get how WS are excuses when those are hard numbers that provides insights into how a single player fits into a team.

[Killakobe81]

And you using 5>4 as an excuse? I don't get how WS are excuses when those are hard numbers that provides insights into how a single player fits into a team.

Nope that is fact. You use winshares to say things such as: Pau led the Lakers in winshares ...discounting his second bannana status and how that helped him succeed. from the equation.

Again Pau is fantastic as a #2 ...
as a #1 you get 0-12 ...

[ambchang]

Nope that is fact. You use winshares to say things such as: Pau led the Lakers in winshares ...discounting his second bannana status and how that helped him succeed. from the equation.

Again Pau is fantastic as a #2 ...
as a #1 you get 0-12 ...

How is Pau a #2 a fact?
as a #1, Kobe get you to miss a playoff and getting kicked out of the 1st round twice.

[Brunodf]

How is Pau a #2 a fact?
as a #1, Kobe get you to miss a playoff and getting kicked out of the 1st round twice.

Poor Kobe, WS shows the true leader from every team in the last 20 years but Kobe, so obviously there is something wrong with WS stats.

[Killakobe81]

How is Pau a #2 a fact?
as a #1, Kobe get you to miss a playoff and getting kicked out of the 1st round twice.

Won't discuss ... achilles ...But I agree those did happen he lost so he takes that blame those years but again HE LED his team to win AT LEAST ONE GAME ...and he gets credit for the les as well (especially last 3) that is how we got to:

Achilles: 5
Duncan: 4

Again Im fair I want to hang the losses and the wins on the best player PRIMARILY ... With a best supporting actor to the #2 and the role players.

As for Bruno I dont like any stats tbh ... PER, WINSHARES, PPG, scoring les all crap ... tbh. I like winning and winners not winshares, sue me. Also hate awards ALL NBA is probably the least corrupted of them all FINALS MVP is OK usually as well.

Find a post where I mention Kobe's scoring les etc. Means nothing.

[Killakobe81]

Part of Spurs nation's outrage was because Pau was going to be a #2 he was a good #1 (not elite) but as a #2 he was deadly.

[ambchang]

Won't discuss ... achilles ...But I agree those did happen he lost so he takes that blame those years but again HE LED his team to win AT LEAST ONE GAME ...and he gets credit for the les as well (especially last 3) that is how we got to:

Achilles: 5
Duncan: 4

Again Im fair I want to hang the losses and the wins on the best player PRIMARILY ... With a best supporting actor to the #2 and the role players.

As for Bruno I dont like any stats tbh ... PER, WINSHARES, PPG, scoring les all crap ... tbh. I like winning and winners not winshares, sue me. Also hate awards ALL NBA is probably the least corrupted of them all FINALS MVP is OK usually as well.

Find a post where I mention Kobe's scoring les etc. Means nothing.

Which is the reason I don't get why you would rank Kobe over Duncan by stating 5>4, but totally ignoring the three seasons if absolute failure. Where's the blame in that?