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WASHINGTON — A senior Republican senator said Friday that the approaching political debate about an immigration overhaul should take into account the revelation that the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing had apparently emigrated to the United States from the former Soviet Union.
Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the most senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, opened a hearing on immigration legislation by stressing that the issue was important “particularly in light of all that’s happening in Massachusetts right now and over the last week.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us...on-debate.html
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Typical New York Times story.
I read the article three times and could find no reference to the Soviet Union from the Senator.
Considering this was the LEAD SENTENCE of the article you would think they could find a quote to back up the assertion.
A senior Republican senator said Friday that the approaching political debate about an immigration overhaul should take into account the revelation that the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing had apparently emigrated to the United States from the former Soviet Union.
The quote's in the OP; the NYT's gloss hardly seems strained to me.
Grassley does seem to link the two.
But was it because they were immigrants from the old Soviet Union or was he being PC and just not referring to the fact that they were radicalized muslims?
dunno.
we don't know much about their beef -- Chechen nationalism could have just as much to do with it.
have you got a source on them being radicalized Muslims or that being the motive for the bombing?
Oh Please. Killing Americans to further the cause of Chechen Nationalism? What is the relationship between the two? You are better than that. Benign, Peace loving Muslims don't kill and maim hundreds of people with backpack IED's.
My impression was that the senator wasn't trying to link it to the Soviet Union, but the fact that they were immigrants.
I don't think the article was pinning this on the Soviet Union either.
Pretty racist for you to assume they would be into chechen nationalism because they are chechen.
The ugly fact is that the only three times we have been hit hard by Islamic backed terrorism in the US it has been by Islamic immigrants that have come into the country through our immigration system. I don't have a clue how you would fix it without discriminating against all muslims but it is what it is.
oops...forgot about Ft. Hood....never mind... that right. Obama called Ft. Hood "workplace violence". LOLOLOLOL
so, you've no got no source on that.
I don't assume it, but it's no less plausible to me than the theory their religion motivated them.
I think that speaks for itself. maybe 20 guys total out of how many millions?
I don't know what you can really do about that. I would agree that our immigration system needs overhaul, and I don't particularly think the current leadership are qualified to do it.
, if the twitter account that they are saying is suspect2's is actually his (@j_tsar). This could be the result of a meth binge. A few days ago he was arguing with someone else between GoT and Breaking Bad and said something to the effect that he relates more to BB because "I like meth".
Go see the older brothers youtube account and see what he subscribed to.
there's connection to this crime on the perp's fb page?
Even israel, a small state that discriminates muslims like crazy, gets bombed once in a while.
you can't stop this. Thinking discriminating is the solution to stop these attacks is silly. Plus there are millions of muslims already in the country and breeding millions more. People gonna have to learn to live with them someday like they learn to live with white supremacists and such folks.
The che we all know and love would advocate for rounding up all religious leaders and killing them, err reeducation.
It was a joke buddy.
Oh yes. no doubt.
but that would put an end to all the wars in the Middle East and Islamic terrorism. And you know the Military Complex would detest that.
But I'm pretty sure Che drank his hot tea pinkies up.
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Wanna put some money on their motive? Iv'e got $100 that says It was Islamic Terrorism.
1) thankfully US justice system does not go by odds, but by proof beyond reasonable doubt
2) I would have to know the exact requirements for defining "Islamic Terrorism". There is a great chance they could be 2 loser type kids with little religious ties just trying to be famous or "fit in".
They are muslim
They just set off two IED's that killed and maimed hundreds of Americans
Their social networking hints heavily at religious motivation
It's simple logic.
it's actually not so simple.
USA Patriot Act Federal Definition of Terrorism states that it is an act that is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion.
If these 2 loser kids just wanted to lash out, even if they had partly religious reasons, does not qualify them automatically as "islamic terrorists"
Was the DC Sniper defined as terrorist? Don't think so. He also was a muslim I believe.
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